RE: New DVLA fee plans to raise £130m
RE: New DVLA fee plans to raise £130m
Wednesday 3rd November 2004

New DVLA fee plans to raise £130m

Industry concern at DVLA plans to empty motorists' wallets


As if we don't pay enough, the DVLA plans to charge for administering change of keeper, for driving licence renewal and an annual vehicle registration fee, which could raise £130 million. Motoring industry body the SMMT has taken -- well, a mildly tough line in response to the Government's request for responses to its proposals.

Drivers should not be forced to fund upgrades to DVLA systems or the renewal of photo licences. That's the line taken by the SMMT in response to the DVLA's fee proposals, currently out for consultation. The Society goes on to criticise the licensing body for failing to absorb costs by improving efficiency.

SMMT chief executive Christopher Macgowan said, 'This doesn't make sense. No business would survive if it passed the costs of going online to the customer, so why does the DVLA think this is acceptable?

'The government takes £4.4 billion a year in road tax and just got an extra
£32.5 million from last year's massive hike in the new car registration fee.
Continuous licensing also means fewer road tax dodgers and more income. So where is all the extra money going?'

The DVLA plans to increase income include:

  • The introduction of a 'change of keeper' fee set at anything up to £7.50, for the 7.5 million used car transactions each year.
  • Ten year photo card licence renewal set at a cost of around £19.00.
  • An annual registration fee for the UK's 29 million cars of between £2.50 and £4.50, generating an additional £130 million.

Christopher Macgowan added, 'the introduction of photo licences should be delivering benefits to society through reduced crime. If there were cost implications, the process should have been subject to an impact assessment.
With proper scrutiny, the industry believes that costs could have been absorbed without hitting drivers in the pocket.'

Last year, DVLA raised a record £74.9 million from the sale of personalised number plates.

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Mr Whippy

Original Poster:

32,150 posts

263 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2004
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And let me guess, we have to manage all these new documents and payments at our local post office. Oh hang on, because they are inefficient too, they want to close half of them!

So now we have to queue twice as long at a post office twice as far away, pay daft council car park fee's, just to send notification and fee of change of ownership, only to get a fine for the post office not sending it through the 7 days "blink of an eye" period we get these days.

Wonder if you'll have to pay the change of owenership fee if it's written off too?

Damn this country and it's stupid fooking tax system!

Dave

mrmaggit

10,146 posts

270 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2004
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Excuse me, Mr. Taxman, I have no money left from what I have to give you. Could I have 50p for a cup of tea, please?

wedgeman

1,326 posts

265 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2004
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Stamp duty for cars... ... ...

Whatever next?????

Bring back Maggie - all is forgiven!

andyps

7,819 posts

304 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2004
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Pay for change of keeper, or get fined for not telling about it, or pay the new keepers fines they acrue. This is totally unacceptable and has to be lobbied against.

How about we all drive to Swansea and block the roads around the DVLA facility until someone realises that motorists will not keep taking these taxes. Only problem with that is the amount of tax the government would collect from me from the petrol to get there.

Bob the Planner

4,695 posts

291 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2004
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They forgot to include change of address on the V5 and the driving licence. Or is that included under the 10year renewal charge and the change of keeper.

Time to move out of the country soon I think.

crankedup

25,764 posts

265 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2004
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Pi55 taking of the highest order (again) come April and yet another huge theft increase on communist chagres from your local jack booted cretins.

Angry ? me ?

garydvo

430 posts

260 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2004
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What do we pay road tax for?

The Government should be releasing funds from the road fund licence to cover any shortfall.

Standard typical Government move. Use major shock tactics with a proposal that is over the top. Eventually the whole thing is watered down but it goes through with everybody thinking well it wasn't as bad as it could have beeen.


Ahrrrrr.

victormeldrew

8,293 posts

299 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2004
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hartge bob said:
Buy a car - get taxed (VAT)

insure a car - get taxed (IPT)

fuel a car - get taxed (VAT)

use a car on the road - get taxed (VED)

don't use a car on the road - get taxed (SORN charge)

sell a car because you can't afford all the tax - get taxed
There is no charge for SORN but I know what you mean!

FourWheelDrift

91,682 posts

306 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2004
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Big question is, Why do they want to raise an extra £130million of revenue?

What will it be used for, on or indeed given to?

victormeldrew

8,293 posts

299 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2004
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Christopher Macgowan said:
'the introduction of photo licences should be delivering benefits to society through reduced crime
Why should it? It's not a persoanl identity card ... is it?

mikeatBB

35 posts

256 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2004
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FourWheelDrift said:
Big question is, Why do they want to raise an extra £130million of revenue?

What will it be used for, on or indeed given to?


It will pay for the ever growing band of Quangoites......the've just invented a new quango to oversee the New gaming laws and giant casinos run by the mafia (an american Quango) I propose that we have a more transparent way of supporting the quangoites........the zoos do it, you pay a fee by bankers order to sponsor/support an animal that's expensive to keep!......we do the same for quangoites. You get a picture of your quangoite sitting supping tea in a plush office.........like seals eating fish!

lanciachris

3,357 posts

263 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2004
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What can we do to stop this that is more noticeable than writing to our local mp?

james_j

3,996 posts

277 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2004
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...and naturally the government will play the old trick of starting the fees at a low level (to minimise objections) which will then creep up once a year...

crankedup

25,764 posts

265 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2004
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What was so different in Maggies day when she introduced the poll tax, remember those violent loud protests against it.

Now we all (including me) seem to sit back moan and accept tax theft in its various disguises.

What happened to the lorry drivers protests this year.

The French would'nt have any of this that we poke up with. Pi55ed off

Buzz-Light-Year

6 posts

260 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2004
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lanciachris said:
What can we do to stop this that is more noticeable than writing to our local mp?


Government Wealth Warning: Voting Labour will seriously damage your wallet.


It really would help if you don't vote them in next time!

Davel

8,982 posts

280 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2004
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Why can't we come up with a system where most of these things can be carried out on line, by the motorist?

Surely this would cut down on the DVLA inputting work and could be done on their website, by the buyer/seller of any car.

james_j

3,996 posts

277 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2004
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The point often missed is, is that we're paying for these "services" already through all the other very many high taxes we pay.

It's just yet another typical Labour wheeze to come up with another tax revenue stream. They have never in our history ever claimed to be the "party of low taxation."

groucho

12,134 posts

268 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2004
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andyps said:

How about we all drive to Swansea and block the roads around the DVLA facility until someone realises that motorists will not keep taking these taxes. Only problem with that is the amount of tax the government would collect from me from the petrol to get there.


I'm up for that.

Apache

39,731 posts

306 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2004
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Soon this money pit called 'the motoring public' is going to be priced off the roads, then where is this greedy whore of a government going to get it's cash from? talk about biting the hand that feeds you

agent006

12,058 posts

286 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2004
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Jesus F***King Christ

We moan that there's no investment in the roads
we whine when we're asked to pay for the roads
we whinge about the crap system for taxing cars
we whine some more when they introduce a new system