RE: Fuel tax rise could spark protest
RE: Fuel tax rise could spark protest
Thursday 11th November 2004

Fuel tax rise could spark protest

Welsh hauliers up in arms about plans to hike petrol prices


New fuel price protests could soon be upon us, according to Alan Greene of the South Wales Hauliers' Association. The driving force behind the demonstrations four years ago that forced a change in government fuel tax policy, Greene said action could be taken 'very soon' after the UK government confirmed it had no plans to follow France in offering operators a user rebate.

His fellow protester, Brynle Williams, now a Tory member of the Welsh Assembly, said that the Labour government is 'robbing the community' with its attitude to petrol prices.

Greene has been active recently, forming part of a convoy of trucks that converged on Cardiff's centre in complaint about the Government's decision to raise fuel tax by 1.5p per litre, on top of the recent increases in fuel resulting from the increase in the price of crude oil, which now tops $50 a barrel.

His comments follow the French Government's plans to relieve hauliers by offering some £259m of fuel aid. Greene is arguing that the UK Government should do something similar.

Williams said he had written to Transport Secretary Alistair Darling and Chancellor Gordon Brown about it. "I am wary that if Labour does not do something about it, we will have serious problems," he said.

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deltaf

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6,806 posts

275 months

Thursday 11th November 2004
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Fuel protests are i believe inevitable.
I also believe that theyll produce zero in the way of desired results.
We do after all have a government that will listen to nobody, unless they are absolutely forced to.

SXS 

2,068 posts

262 months

Thursday 11th November 2004
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Where do I sign, I will block anything as long as we can all group up and do something here? I am serious - a Pistonheads protest! the media attention will be incredible we'll joing the juggers - I've seen the hike already, went to get a tank full and saw that the price was now 84p per litre for unleaded! Its getting crazy and if we the public do not do something about it - then what point is there to have a democracy? Might as well give Tony a scud missile and some mustard gas and make him a dictator while we're at it.... BAS**RDS!

uldis

251 posts

257 months

Thursday 11th November 2004
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Same here.
Can't understand this government. Fell like we're in the medioeval times... here comes the tax collector!

sjr202

147 posts

276 months

Thursday 11th November 2004
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Im up for doing something to show the gov;t the motorist has had enough of being a scape goat for its unmanageable spending!
The wont charge criminals with decent fines or punishment so the only way to get more money is to charge more for everyday hard working people who will cough up without any fuss!

Bout time something is done about them, any other country wouldnt stand for it, America would have Riots, France would go on strike until something is done!

m-five

12,013 posts

306 months

Thursday 11th November 2004
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If they plan on doing them in December, then I am willing to help the blockade!

apache

39,731 posts

306 months

Thursday 11th November 2004
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count me in

DanH

12,287 posts

282 months

Thursday 11th November 2004
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Not convinced a load of expensive sports cars in the protest will do much for the cause

Mr Whippy

32,150 posts

263 months

Thursday 11th November 2004
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Thing is last time this happened, the government propoganda came into full force AGAIN.

Poor hospitals, the ambulances can't work, people are going to die because your blocking the ambulances from filling up at the petrol station, lOL...

Only government spin helped by the feeble news reporting could make people think that the blockades were actually stopping fuel for emergency service depots etc!

Damn pain in the arse this government. I don't wish harm on anyone, but I wish something nasty, like genital warts on Tony Bliar!

Dave

woof

8,456 posts

299 months

Thursday 11th November 2004
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It's bad enough having to pay 93p a litre ( I can remember as a kid when everyone was going crazy about it reaching £1 for a gallon ! )
you should try having oil burner boiler for your central heating at the moment - it's 200% more that what is cost last year !

Bet that doesn't show on the inflation figures

Battlecat

945 posts

260 months

Thursday 11th November 2004
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I'd be up for taking part in a protest. And if emergency services have trouble then so be it, hopefully its a politicion's house that's burning down.

cdp

8,017 posts

276 months

Thursday 11th November 2004
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Mr Whippy said:


Damn pain in the arse this government. I don't wish harm on anyone, but I wish something nasty, like genital warts on Tony Bliar!

Dave


I just wish him a long and happy retirement. The sooner the better.

Carl

cdp

8,017 posts

276 months

Thursday 11th November 2004
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Mr Whippy said:


Damn pain in the arse this government. I don't wish harm on anyone, but I wish something nasty, like genital warts on Tony Bliar!

Dave


I just wish him a long and happy retirement. The sooner the better.

Carl

Mr Whippy

32,150 posts

263 months

Thursday 11th November 2004
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I have no idea why they are crippling us with this tax.

I spend SO much money on fuel even though I just do average miles now. Why oh why do they need SO much more money?

If they raised income tax, it'd be noticed by the rich, and they'd loose votes thats probably why!
However, add it onto something that is not used en-mass by everyone, and you only alienate a percentage of the voters...

Sick if you ask me, not like I'm poor, but it's ALOT of money for nothing if you ask me. Just looking at the statistics, VAT on fuel alone pays for what they spent back on the roads last year, forgetting the fuel tax itself and the road tax etc!

Down with Bliar, and up with someone who might stand up for people, and listen to people. Someone who will actually do their damn job as leader!

Hmmmm

Dave

apache

39,731 posts

306 months

Thursday 11th November 2004
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DanH said:

Not convinced a load of expensive sports cars in the protest will do much for the cause


good job I sold mine then

WildfireS3

9,913 posts

274 months

Thursday 11th November 2004
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If they protest near me, I'll go. I do 50 miles a week or so and the fuel prices are killing me. 90p a lire or so is just insane!!

mondeoman

11,430 posts

288 months

Thursday 11th November 2004
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WildfireS3 said:
If they protest near me, I'll go. I do 50 miles a week or so and the fuel prices are killing me. 90p a lire or so is just insane!!


50 miles a week?? try it when you have to do 3000 a month, all out of your own pocket .

cliffe_mafia

1,720 posts

260 months

Thursday 11th November 2004
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Long overdue in my opinion - where do I sign up?

I only do 12000 miles a year but pay £25 a week petrol tax ( I really wish I hadn't just worked that out )

The only problem I have with the protests is that they involve a slow trundle in traffic along a motorway which is what I do everyday anyway!

stooz

3,005 posts

306 months

Thursday 11th November 2004
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I havent stopped protesting the last one - still never go to esso or BP.

I think Ive made a dramatic differencer to there profits...

britten_mark

1,602 posts

275 months

Thursday 11th November 2004
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I just properly filled up the family snoozemobile for the first time in weeks (ie no discount coupons) and it was nearly sixty f**king quid!!

Gone are the days where I would take the family out on a Sunday for fun; the blasted Gov and all its cronies are gradually getting their way, motoring for dictated needs over pleasure.

imperialgreen

7 posts

261 months

Thursday 11th November 2004
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Same old rip off Britain. The French public would not stand for it! After the UK motorist is poor man of Europe article on PH it's about time we stood up to be counted against this crap. The British motorist pays billions in direct & indirect taxes each year and what do we see for our money - poor roads and high fuel prices! Remember the poll tax riots - that changed government policy. I'm not condoning the use of violence, but the public needs to be heard.