Pop-up ads on TV now
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Everyone hates pop-up ads, but can you imagine how intrusive it would be if they started appearing during TV programmes?
It's already happening...
www.accessatlanta.com/ajc/business/0702/15popupads.html
There'll be a way to identify the type of picture shown as an ad and the type consistent with the program being shown.
Or even - when playing there could be a lag between the tape running through the machine and themnachine sendingthe signal to the TV. If the signal jumps to a completely different style of picture and then back again, the machine would decide it's an ad and jump past it. With a big enough buffer at the start, you wouldn't even notice. With a DVD it'd be even easier.
Any VCR manufacturers out there want to offer me a highly paid job thinking of this kind of stuff? ... waits ... waits ... hello, anyone out there?
>> Edited by JohnL on Wednesday 31st July 12:02
Or even - when playing there could be a lag between the tape running through the machine and themnachine sendingthe signal to the TV. If the signal jumps to a completely different style of picture and then back again, the machine would decide it's an ad and jump past it. With a big enough buffer at the start, you wouldn't even notice. With a DVD it'd be even easier.
Any VCR manufacturers out there want to offer me a highly paid job thinking of this kind of stuff? ... waits ... waits ... hello, anyone out there?
>> Edited by JohnL on Wednesday 31st July 12:02
Sorry guys, but you both seem to be missing the point here. The way I read the article is that the pop-up would be included in the picture feed in the same way as the logo that some channels have in the top-right corner. Or the way the clock is superimposed on the screen during breakfast TV. You'd have an extremely hard job to remove that, and you would be unlikely to be able to interpolate the picture underneath so would leave at worst a big blank patch or at best a ghosted image of the advert.
Sorry John!!
There are plans on the table, but it's most likely that manufacturers will take the TIVO (hard drive) route. It's down to burning speed.
This is easy, there's plenty of (free) software to do this provided theres enough buffering space (RAM etc) - it won't really be real time.
Pick the right burning software/CODECs etc and yes.
Much better to capture to hard drive via capture card and use computer + drive as the 'video' outputting to telly. Make the DVD copies for your mates after..
This wouldn't be porn related would it.
That's what driving the technology...
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Incidentally does anyone know if a recordable DVD for TV is coming soon?
There are plans on the table, but it's most likely that manufacturers will take the TIVO (hard drive) route. It's down to burning speed.
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Could you link together a PC DVD recorder and a PC TV card?
This is easy, there's plenty of (free) software to do this provided theres enough buffering space (RAM etc) - it won't really be real time.
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And then replay the disc on the TV DVD player?
Pick the right burning software/CODECs etc and yes.
Much better to capture to hard drive via capture card and use computer + drive as the 'video' outputting to telly. Make the DVD copies for your mates after..
This wouldn't be porn related would it.
That's what driving the technology...
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Incidentally does anyone know if a recordable DVD for TV is coming soon?
Could you link together a PC DVD recorder and a PC TV card? And then replay the disc on the TV DVD player?
Phillips do a DVD recorder that can record TV programmes now.
You can used a PC DVD RAM drive with a TV card but why bother? Just get a big HDD and record straight onto that with a PVR. You can even control these over the web so you never need miss a TV show again!
Unfortunately for the playback to work properly you need a Plasma screen as TV's and monitors although both have CRT's work on entirely different principles.
EDIT: Just thought that there is a real struggle going on between the DVD-RAM and DVD-RW camps as to what standard to adopt so its worth waiting a while.
Matt.
>> Edited by plotloss on Wednesday 31st July 13:00
Yup, it does depend on how much dosh you've spent on your output card 
But you can output to telly.
The I/O box i'm working with at the mo is bloody expensive as it has to output High Definition etc - the monitor is £12,000 alone!!
You can get a card that outputs to telly for about £40!
But you can output to telly.
The I/O box i'm working with at the mo is bloody expensive as it has to output High Definition etc - the monitor is £12,000 alone!!
You can get a card that outputs to telly for about £40!
TV is shite anyway. Even sky just repeats of simpsons and old crap. If you 'rent' a movie on sky the sound quality sucks ass too. I spent a couple of grand on dvd's for my system instead. When I use the tv now it's for 'quality time' movies, not just any mindless shite that happens to be on.
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Yup, it does depend on how much dosh you've spent on your output card
But you can output to telly.
The I/O box i'm working with at the mo is bloody expensive as it has to output High Definition etc - the monitor is £12,000 alone!!
You can get a card that outputs to telly for about £40!
I thought all these cards with S-Video out required either HDTV or a Plasma screen because of the interlacing issue at 320x200 or whatever the resolution is. Dont you get screen artifacts on TV's whatever the card?
Matt.
Sorry scruff et all there are dvdrs (dvd video recorders) out there already and coming down in price very rapidly. At the moment there are several formats the best looking so far is the dvd+RW philips have produced two new models for europe 880, 890, the main difference between them is 890 has an interface for digital vidoes cameras and EP+ (up 6 hours recording) 880 can only record upto 4hours on 4.7GB disk.
I would predict in a years time most people will be buying dvdrs. High street prices are quite expensive but using on-line stores the 880 dvdr is £399 all in.
The hard disk burners either have a dvd player built in or can't play dvds at all IMHO its dead technology. At the moment though the dvdr forum (containing most major manufactures) are arguing over the format. IMHO the dvd+rw format will win as its backwards compatiable with normal dvd players (as you can record a dvd and eject it in dvd format).
Hope thats cleared the matter up. If you're wondering why I know all this its because my video recorder is playing up (very old) and I investigated this as I don't like buying used technology. useful link is www.dvdplusrw.org/
>> Edited by smeagol on Wednesday 31st July 14:16
I would predict in a years time most people will be buying dvdrs. High street prices are quite expensive but using on-line stores the 880 dvdr is £399 all in.
The hard disk burners either have a dvd player built in or can't play dvds at all IMHO its dead technology. At the moment though the dvdr forum (containing most major manufactures) are arguing over the format. IMHO the dvd+rw format will win as its backwards compatiable with normal dvd players (as you can record a dvd and eject it in dvd format).
Hope thats cleared the matter up. If you're wondering why I know all this its because my video recorder is playing up (very old) and I investigated this as I don't like buying used technology. useful link is www.dvdplusrw.org/
>> Edited by smeagol on Wednesday 31st July 14:16
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I thought all these cards with S-Video out required either HDTV or a Plasma screen because of the interlacing issue at 320x200 or whatever the resolution is. Dont you get screen artifacts on TV's whatever the card?
Some factors to consider. The graphics card would need to have a VGA or Composite output, you can buy VGA to composite converter cables but they tend to be crap. But they will play out on CRT TVs (glass tellys!).
Don't know about interlacing - most analogue broadcast stuff is 'progressive'.
Artifacts - well unless you're able to output component colour (or at a push, SVGA) you're going to get some artifacts but these will mostly be from the CODEC employed to squish your chosen resolution down to 525 lines of telly. I've had readable text (just)from the 640x480 but 1024 was too optimistic! We've played Unreal on a telly though..
Sorry about pappin on, on this motor forum, but I am at 'work',
BTW Matt, what do you do again - wait a bit, this could start a new thread..
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BTW Matt, what do you do again
I work in IT for a domestic appliance insurer but the more I look into this home media network consultancy business the more I think that this is just the sort of thing that would warrant one of them posh offices in fulham, sharp italian suits and flash motors for very little work.
Matt.
quote:if you're gonna do that, you'll speak to me won't you, having demonstrated a few of the shiny things I've done in this area?
I work in IT for a domestic appliance insurer but the more I look into this home media network consultancy business the more I think that this is just the sort of thing that would warrant one of them posh offices in fulham, sharp italian suits and flash motors for very little work.
"£10k entry level system... £30k for something adequate, Sir"
>> Edited by CarZee on Wednesday 31st July 16:46
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