OT: Try not to think at work!
OT: Try not to think at work!
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JonRB

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78,822 posts

292 months

Monday 12th August 2002
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From The Register
www.theregister.co.uk/content/7/26627.html

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Acatel owns US employee's thoughts

A US man says he will appeal a court's decision which ruled that an idea that existed only in his mind belonged to his employer.

Evan Brown has been working on an idea to convert old computer code so that it can be run on modern machine since 1975.

When Brown mentioned the idea to his employers while he worked for DSC Communications of Plano, Texas (subsequently bought by Alcatel) DSC decided it owned the rights to Brown's insight and demanded that he revealed his idea. Brown refused and he was fired. DCS then launched legal action against him to gain possession of his thoughts.

Almost six years later and Brown has finally been told by a judge that DCS is entitled to his idea. He's also been told to stump up $332,000 in legal costs. Throughout the legal process Brown maintained that he'd never written down the idea, only solved part of it while employed by DCS and thought of some of it outside office hours.

His former employer maintained that he had signed a contract which contained a clause giving DCS ownership rights of any of his "inventions".

Brown's idea was deemed to be an "invention".

On his web site Brown claims he's been "railroaded" and has vowed to appeal.

He also launched a scathing attack on the justice system in Texas.

The lesson from DSC/Alcatel .vs. Evan Brown? If you've got a good idea, keep it under your hat. That, or abstain from thinking altogether.

scruff400

3,757 posts

281 months

Monday 12th August 2002
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Ahhh, Intelectual property.

I too would be a rich man, instead my last company are still making money out of my ideas that I weren't allowed to talk about for two years after walking out (over an arguement about intelectual property amongst other things )...

Fung Contracts.

>> Edited by scruff400 on Monday 12th August 14:02

Roop

6,018 posts

304 months

Monday 12th August 2002
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Shocking isn't it...? Would it be too hard to erm, forget...!

Roop

Nevin

2,999 posts

281 months

Monday 12th August 2002
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Nightmare. Does that mean they can do you for sexual harrasment if you have improper thoughts about the secretaries?

CarZee

13,382 posts

287 months

Monday 12th August 2002
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To this end, drawing on my vast experience of living the invisible life of a corporate nobody, I intend to launch a course on not thinking at work very soon.

I'll also be offering a number of lifestyle products to help unduly thoughtful workers kick the habit. Chemicals mostly

M@H

11,298 posts

292 months

Monday 12th August 2002
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Nightmare. Does that mean they can do you for sexual harrasment if you have improper thoughts about the secretaries?



Thats actually an interesting point.....

JoePhandango

120 posts

288 months

Monday 12th August 2002
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As far as I know, it's fairly standard practice to sign an interlectual property agreement when recruited to an R&D role. I had to sign one too, giving the same rights to my employer. It did seem to me to fairly draconian at the time but I have to admit that if I came up with an I thought was a definite winner, I think I'd suddenly feel the need to resign due to extreme lip-tightness...

CarZee

13,382 posts

287 months

Monday 12th August 2002
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Well, after 'hate-crime' legislation, which in essence punishes an 'offender' for what they were suspected to be thinking whilst commiting an offence against another person, other thought-crime legislation is bound to follow..

M@H

11,298 posts

292 months

Monday 12th August 2002
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Well, after 'hate-crime' legislation, which in essence punishes an 'offender' for what they were suspected to be thinking whilst commiting an offence against another person, other thought-crime legislation is bound to follow..



its been prophecied.... Orwell's 1984 wasnt it...?

pbrettle

3,280 posts

303 months

Monday 12th August 2002
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I'm only paid to do - not think....

scruff400

3,757 posts

281 months

Monday 12th August 2002
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I only think i'm paid.

TerryD

10 posts

283 months

Tuesday 13th August 2002
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Nightmare. Does that mean they can do you for sexual harrasment if you have improper thoughts about the secretaries?



I think the logical extension is that the thoughts belong to the company - so they're the dirty-minded bastards, not you. You should be able to sue them.

I was involved in an invention years ago and a couple of years after I left the company I got a letter asking me to sign over my rights. Never did - but I don't think it made any difference. The thing I remember most vividly was the letter's author, an
F. W. Arter

Never quite worked out why he always put the W in there.

Richard92c2

464 posts

283 months

Wednesday 14th August 2002
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Shocking isn't it...? Would it be too hard to erm, forget...!

Roop



Sounds like this chap should smoke some weeed, It does make one forgetful doesn't it? I wouldn't know of course!

Or

Just let them have the idea ...

"Ok, here it is then, I propose we get rid of the old code and re-write it in java scrpt"



cotty

41,668 posts

304 months

Thursday 15th August 2002
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Well, after 'hate-crime' legislation, which in essence punishes an 'offender' for what they were suspected to be thinking whilst commiting an offence against another person, other thought-crime legislation is bound to follow..



Sounds like Minority Report where they arrest and imprison you for a crime you are about to commit.

CarZee

13,382 posts

287 months

Thursday 15th August 2002
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Not seen minority Report - is it a good film?

Would tyhe satisfaction of seeing it compensate me for the over-arching compulsion to mutilate twats with mobile phones and verbal diarrhoea?

nigelbasson

533 posts

286 months

Thursday 15th August 2002
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It's good but not that good. Nothing wrong with a bit of mutilation before dinner - just choose a good weapon!