New Morgan Fastback
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crbox

Original Poster:

461 posts

255 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2005
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Morgan will reveal a stunning new fastback model, based on the Aero 8.
It will be revealed to the world at the Geneva show on March 1st.

Podie

46,647 posts

297 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2005
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er... anything to substantiate this statement..?

crbox

Original Poster:

461 posts

255 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2005
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Podie said:
er... anything to substantiate this statement..?

Yes it's fact, although you won't get any change out of Charles Morgan.
My company originally presented the Morgan car co with design proposals for a fastback coupe Aero 8. We felt that this treatment would define the model.
However they have decided to go there own way and subject to development delay, the model will be at Geneva.
I hope that the new model gives Morgan the return they deserve, for the investment ploughed into the visually subjective, but techically excellent Aero.

wolosp

2,337 posts

287 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2005
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los angeles said:
Anything that improves the rear of the Aero 8 is to be welcomed.


los angeles said:

And the front!


Wacky Racer

40,506 posts

269 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2005
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los angeles said:
And the front!




Well I quite like it....





(ex plus 8 owner)

crbox

Original Poster:

461 posts

255 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2005
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Now imagine that with fastback coachwork along the lines of a Bugatti Atlantic.............

Twin Turbo

5,544 posts

288 months

Thursday 3rd February 2005
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I always thought the back was it's best view! I really think this could be one gorgeous car if only they got the styling details right (and sort the front end). It also needs a decent rake to the windscreen - the current one is 1930's upright!

I love the flowing lines, but it deserves to be a proper 21st century design (as it is underneath).

Oh, and keep the interior as per the Le Mans version (or something like that) that Hammond drove on Top Gear - what a sound too

v8thunder

27,647 posts

280 months

Thursday 3rd February 2005
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crbox said:
Now imagine that with fastback coachwork along the lines of a Bugatti Atlantic.............


I always thought that's the direction Morgan should go in. I hate the front end of the Aero 8 - looks like a melted welly - but the interior is exquisite, and if that, plus the engine, was matched to coachwork that incorporated that flowing grille with simpler, more inset lights that didn't look so cross-eyed, and flowing art-deco coachwork as opposed to that 'modernised '30s' look they've got going, they'd be on to a winner.

Podie

46,647 posts

297 months

Thursday 3rd February 2005
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crbox said:

Podie said:
er... anything to substantiate this statement..?


Yes it's fact, although you won't get any change out of Charles Morgan.
My company originally presented the Morgan car co with design proposals for a fastback coupe Aero 8. We felt that this treatment would define the model.
However they have decided to go there own way and subject to development delay, the model will be at Geneva.
I hope that the new model gives Morgan the return they deserve, for the investment ploughed into the visually subjective, but techically excellent Aero.


Apologies for sounding sceptical… it's certainly not uncommon for someone relatively new to the forum to come and make a sweeping statement about something they claim to be "in the know" about…

I look forward to seeing the photos of the new Mog though.

crbox

Original Poster:

461 posts

255 months

Thursday 3rd February 2005
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Did you know?

1) The Aero chassis is all aluminium - a first for a coachbuilt car.

2) Chassis are built by the same contractor as the Bentley GT

3) Car weighs about the same as a Mini Cooper S, but insted of 165Bhp....

4)Has the 300/330Bhp 4.4 litre lump from the BMW Z8 that costs Morgan £20,000 each

5)The Le Mans version had 4.6L engine, originally modified for Powerboat racing.

6) The same Le Mans racer was sold bt Morgan, on E-Bay for £105,000 + vat

7) Aero owners av. 28 MPG at constant 75 mph.

8) Mk II wide body version already in production

9) Morgan car co has mad 300 Aero's so far and has 200+ unstarted orders for North America.

10) You have to take off the entire O.S front wing to change the oil filter!

900T-R

20,406 posts

279 months

Thursday 3rd February 2005
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crbox said:
Did you know?

3) Car weighs about the same as a Mini Cooper S, but insted of 165Bhp....



A lot less than a Cooper S (which incidentally weighs about the same as my classic Saab 900 Turbo...), actually. Morgan says it's at exactly a tonne - impressive given the V8 engine and sturdy build...

Me? I like it, a lot. Not a classic beauty, but a futuristic rendition of a '30s British Batmobile.

Make mine a GT...

spunagain

772 posts

280 months

Thursday 3rd February 2005
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Hi
Welcome to the forums.
What does coach built mean? Presumably the Elise with it's ally chassis is not coach built then!

Spunagain

crbox

Original Poster:

461 posts

255 months

Thursday 3rd February 2005
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spunagain said:
Hi
Welcome to the forums.
What does coach built mean? Presumably the Elise with it's ally chassis is not coach built then!

Spunagain


Er...... the statement is from Morgans own press release.
I guess coach built means, the original method of making car bodies.
i.e. a shed-load of very old blokes, bashing metal sheets over wooden formers until they look like they were moulded!

JonRB

79,163 posts

294 months

Thursday 3rd February 2005
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crbox said:
Yes it's fact, although you won't get any change out of Charles Morgan.
My company originally presented the Morgan car co with design proposals for a fastback coupe Aero 8.

In that case I'm extremely surprised you aren't under a confidentiality agreement.

>> Edited by JonRB on Thursday 3rd February 13:19

crbox

Original Poster:

461 posts

255 months

Thursday 3rd February 2005
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JonRB said:

crbox said:
Yes it's fact, although you won't get any change out of Charles Morgan.
My company originally presented the Morgan car co with design proposals for a fastback coupe Aero 8.


In that case I'm extremely surprised you aren't under a confidentiality agreement.

>> Edited by JonRB on Thursday 3rd February 13:19


Well, we didn't get the job did we?

JonRB

79,163 posts

294 months

Thursday 3rd February 2005
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crbox said:
JonRB said:
In that case I'm extremely surprised you aren't under a confidentiality agreement.
Well, we didn't get the job did we?
So? I've had to sign NDAs with clients before they'll even discuss the work they want me to do, whether I do it or not.

I even had to sign a NDA at a Microsoft conference once before they'd let me into the lecture hall where they were discussing a product that hadn't gone to market yet.

v8thunder

27,647 posts

280 months

Thursday 3rd February 2005
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They really should take inspiration from the master:

richb

55,180 posts

306 months

Friday 4th February 2005
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Looking at that picture makes me realise that Morgan got the naming completely wrong, because in true 30's style the "Aero" should have been the closed top coupe! Rich...

Tony427

2,873 posts

255 months

Friday 4th February 2005
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Elise and Morgan chassis are both made by the same Birmingham company, called Radshape, who make the special grills and brightwork for Bentley.

Chassis are riveted and then glued together, baked at 160 degrees celcius for a couple of days, and as a result the bond is stronger than the aluminium itself. Its a very interesting and specialised process.

Cheers,

Tony

jumjum

347 posts

280 months

Friday 4th February 2005
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Bah who wants a svele and sexy coupe

An SUV that's the thing