Labour Gone Mental ( no change there )
Labour Gone Mental ( no change there )
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stevieturbo

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17,933 posts

269 months

Sunday 20th February 2005
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Yet again, they defy belief. How on earth did anyone ever vote for them ???

Monster raving Looney party would have been better.

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>>> Edited by stevieturbo on Sunday 20th February 13:41

james_j

3,996 posts

277 months

Sunday 20th February 2005
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Labour has introduced about 1000 new laws since they came back into power. Just one or two more then...

v8thunder

27,647 posts

280 months

Sunday 20th February 2005
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That's madness. They have no care for heritage and I suppose it also means that not only does it sting cars at the bottom of their depreciation trough, but it closes the pre '72 tax loophole.

Is this for real or just a rumour.

They're suggesting, therefore, that it's more 'environmentally friendly' to order the over-building of heavily automated-production, plastic-based, disposable cars than it is to keep older ones going.

And can you imagine how many jobs that would disappear as a result? Are they insane?

I don't trust the story, but it does raise some worrying points.

Trundle

120 posts

276 months

Monday 21st February 2005
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Ah, but think how many jobs they would create.

Useless jobs admittedly!

I can't see it coming to this but there is no doubt about it, this lot are control freaks.

One day they'll regulate once to often and then wonder why society erupts.

Another thought. Is it government (elected politicians) thinking this garbage up or civil servants expanding their empires to ensure their
jobs and their tax payer sponsored pensions?

Incorrigible

13,668 posts

283 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2005
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report said:
All vehicles to be fitted with catalytic converters
I ecxpect trains and busses aren't really "vehicles" in the case

winkers

Alicatt

220 posts

255 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2005
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Trundle said:

I can't see it coming to this but there is no doubt about it, this lot are control freaks.

And you only just realised this?
Just listening to Clark saying how they, the poloticians, want the power to confine anyone that they don't like without the right to any challange in court.
One word against the govt. and you could be branded a terrorist and locked away. This is very frightening

chris1roll

1,870 posts

266 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2005
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If this is true, i think i'm going to cry!!

Compulsorily scrapped??!!

The only way they are ever going to get the 480 away from me is to prise it from my cold dead fingers.

As for no maintenance, how the hell are they going to enforce that? are they going to close down halfords?

chris1roll

1,870 posts

266 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2005
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/rant
And another thing!!

What do they think is going to happen then? people won't bother maintaining their cars at all if they can't afford to pay a dealer £100 upwards just for labour, and will rely on the annual MOT to pick up problems, how is that going to contribute to safety?

Posesion tax etc will just add to the number of unregistered vehicles

The more i think about it the more i see its totally unworkable. feckwits.

stevieturbo

Original Poster:

17,933 posts

269 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2005
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create jobs ?????

IMO it would put hundreds of thousands of people out of jobs. People need transport to get to and from, and also to do work, and to enjoy their lives, and get to shops etc.

If that is removed, IMO the economy would collapse.
Certainly as far as I am concerned, there is NO alternative to using my car to get to and from work.

Are they going to destory every ounce of motoring heritage in the UK, scrapping anything older than 15yrs old ??

As one person said....they will need to take cars from me, over my dead body.

sketchytrail

21 posts

253 months

Wednesday 23rd February 2005
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BL**dy Hell !!!!......don't vote them in again!!!!

Piccy mate

541 posts

259 months

Wednesday 23rd February 2005
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I couldn't read that image very clearly, so went searching - found this comment on Classic Motorcycles ......
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Or old vehicles soon could be. A recent copy of Jumblers News contained a scary view of just what life for old vehicle enthusiasts could be like if the Blair regime engineers another term. This Government has consistently proved it itself to be anti-heritage and definitely anti-motoring. Proposals that have been discussed could effectively spell the end for our hobby. And don't think it couldn't happen; to make a comparison look at the hunting laws. No matter what your views on the subject are, what actually happened is the Government picked something they didn't like and railroaded a ban through. Don't be naive to think that it couldn't happen to our interest. Now that they are buoyed up by one success, the next victim will be pursued with more vigour.
Among the proposals discussed and rejected but not forgotten are a ban on anyone other than an approved repairer to carry out any work on a vehicle. The criminalising of private individuals selling spares. A possession tax our sister publication Old Bike Mart has just run a successful campaign against this, but will the Government take any notice? Cradle-to-grave taxation of all vehicles even if they are a pile of bits. Autojumbles subjected to ever tighter controls and, to police this, a vast army of local authority snoopers with dictatorial powers. Perhaps even more worrying is the one that proposes to restrict usage of vehicles over 15 years of age.
Oh, don't get me wrong. The proposals will be dressed up as 'initiatives to cut crime' or 'for health and safety' but the bottom line actually reads 'we don't want you to do that, so you won't do that'. Don't sit back and wait for it to happen, do something now, make your feelings known, raise awareness in the Press though I personally won't be splashing naked in the sea off Brighton, like the ladies of the hunt lobby did, in the hope of raising awareness of our cause .
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So - write to the Daily Mail and give them something else to campaign against!
Piccy mate


minimax

11,985 posts

278 months

Friday 25th February 2005
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they will have to prise my mini out of my cold grasp before I let go of it

james_j

3,996 posts

277 months

Friday 25th February 2005
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Piccy mate said:
... The proposals will be dressed up as 'initiatives to cut crime' or 'for health and safety' but the bottom line actually reads 'we don't want you to do that, so you won't do that'...


Yes, beware of this government's expertise in "dressing up" any new initiative so that, initially, it seems harmless. Then, little by little, the new restriction is built upon until, by which time it's too late, you're living under another power in the strengthening police state.

cdp

8,017 posts

276 months

Friday 25th February 2005
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Now they've got fox hunting out of the way, it's our turn on the spit.

I didn't support either side on the foxhunting, but they made a complete pig's ear of the legislation and timing as with most of their laws.

If they thought the pro-hunt lobby gave them trouble....

>> Edited by cdp on Friday 25th February 14:50