Blair willing to pay in Blood
Blair willing to pay in Blood
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marki

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15,763 posts

290 months

Friday 6th September 2002
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well we can only hope he is at the front line when the shooting starts.

pbrettle

3,280 posts

303 months

Friday 6th September 2002
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Its like so many things - they say in business, that if you are not sure as to the quality of a candidate for a job - imagine that it is *your* money and see if you feel the same.

Well, take the same for this then - would Blair feel the same if he was willing to commit his own children to the front line? I dont think so. Its amazing how the 24x7 security that he gets might be clouding his opinions.

Anyway, I think that this time most people can see straight through it. At least with the Gulf it was for a reason (Kuwait) and nothing else. But this is a whole different ball game and could it be really worth it? Mmm, debatable.

Cheers,

Paul

Whoozit

3,859 posts

289 months

Friday 6th September 2002
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Blair seems to have this notion that he has presidential status. He is NOT - he should be rudely awakened and reminded that he is "primus inter pares" and CAN be overruled.

mondeoman

11,430 posts

286 months

Friday 6th September 2002
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He's an arrogant twat.

If it was a sure fire thing, then why not recall Parliament to debate the issue closed chamber and at least let our version of democracy have its say. But he wont cos he doesn't have anything concrete to go on and he'll get ripped to shreds by his own party, let alone the opposition.

It stinks

pbrettle

3,280 posts

303 months

Friday 6th September 2002
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Interestingly I am reading the Simon Schama book "The History of Britain - 1600 - 1700". You know the bit in British history with two civil wars, impeachment of countless politicians and a state execution of the king.... could draw some comparisons with the current situation today....

If only capital punishment was still on the cards...

Cheers,

Paul

P.S. As rightly said, dont apease Parliment and pay the penalty

lotusfan

593 posts

286 months

Friday 6th September 2002
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Soldiers don't start wars, politicians do. If he had to pull the trigger I'm not so sure he'd be as keen to kick off.

salty

95 posts

304 months

Friday 6th September 2002
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Thing I don't get (if thats the word), but good ole George says he wont go to war unless Congress says "yes", but our illustrious dictator doesn't want to consult parliment.

Am I the only one who noticed this. Bloody worrying.

Paul

JMGS4

8,870 posts

290 months

Friday 6th September 2002
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You know the bit in British history with two civil wars, impeachment of countless politicians and a state execution of the king.... could draw some comparisons with the current situation today....
If only capital punishment was still on the cards...


We the people can change the law, as we did then and make these lying schemeing barstewards responsible for their ups. Bring back execution by hanging in public, drawing and quartering. More fun than BigBrother and a damn sight more entertaining!!!!!
No I'm not bitter, just'd love to shoot some damned politicians...........

mr_tony

6,340 posts

289 months

Friday 6th September 2002
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Thing I don't get (if thats the word), but good ole George says he wont go to war unless Congress says "yes", but our illustrious dictator doesn't want to consult parliment.

Am I the only one who noticed this. Bloody worrying.




Um, I think you'll notice if you check the reports that this will mean a discussion in Congress before the end of October. I reckon that even British democracy will move faster than that.

Besides, 'technically' theres nothing to talk about.

First step will be :

1. Agree wording for UN document that Saddam cannot / will not fulfill. Parliament will discuss this.

2. Set the deadline for above mentioned conditions to be met.

2a. Convince China/Russia/France to stay out of it (Tony is off to Russia to offer a multi-Billion dollar bribe to Putin - Iraq owe the russian 9billion $ hence Putin not too keen to wipe them off the face of the earth.... China the US will threaten with trade restrictions I figure which should keep them out of it too. With no security council objections it's all clear for war...)

3. Sit back, wait for Iraq to fail to submit to conditions imposed in part1,2, then hang around for an indetereminate time to scare the hell out of his armed forces keeping them waiting.

4. Drop lots of bombs on Iraq

5. Repeat(War) Until (Iraq == Flat)

Stage 1 is what parliament / congress will actually discuss. Which misses the pont completely.

Besides we started the 'softening up' this morning (F15's and Tornadoes) on a Military Base.

The news hasn't reported (as they usually do for these larger unscheduled atttacks) that it was a result of a 'coallition plane being targeted by ground radar' (a reasonable pint at which to open up. Seems todays forray was straight up preparation for something to come, no excuses offered...

As you might have noticed I'm a complete cynic on these matters. I think we're off to war already, theres a lot of momentum built.

If you want to stop it, get down and chain yourself to the houses of parliament with 3-4 thousand others, or call a general strike... Short of that hang on for the ride and hope that the bozos in Whitehall know what they're doing....

Me, I'm moving to the bahamas...
:tropicalsmileydrinkingrumonthebeach:

JonRB

78,822 posts

292 months

Friday 6th September 2002
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Saw Blair on the news last night. Doesn't the grinning imbecile have a face that just says "slap me"?

elanturbo

565 posts

282 months

Friday 6th September 2002
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Just heard on the radio that we have started already.
100 planes bombed something 250 miles south west of Bagdad either last night or today. No joke.
Sorry for the repeat if you are reading the Iraq post.