Vulcan to be sold on e-bay
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News in the papers over the weekend is that the last potentially airworthy Vulcan Bomber could be sold on the Internet after the National Lottery Heritage Fund turned down an application for £2.5 million to get the aircraft back in the air.
The Lottery fund cited Value for Money and risk for not granting the funding.
This is from the Lottery who gave £20 million to asylum seekers last year
The Vulcan XH558 is currently stripped at Bruntingthorpe in Leicestershire.
There is anger within the aircraft enthusiast world that funding has been turned down and that the Vulcan may be auctioned off on E-Bay, with the likely buyer being in the USA.
More details are on www.vulcan558club.com
The Lottery fund cited Value for Money and risk for not granting the funding.
This is from the Lottery who gave £20 million to asylum seekers last year
The Vulcan XH558 is currently stripped at Bruntingthorpe in Leicestershire.
There is anger within the aircraft enthusiast world that funding has been turned down and that the Vulcan may be auctioned off on E-Bay, with the likely buyer being in the USA.
More details are on www.vulcan558club.com
This is criminal. Many people have put a lot of time money and effort into keeping this Vulcan almost airworthy and after all the utter bollocks and unworthy tosh that lottery money's been put into, TVOC can't get any for a unique part of our history as a whole, let alone aviation history.
It will be a terrible shame if we can't keep XH558. I'd love to snatch it up for WV322 Ltd, but the couple of Hunters we have are enough of a handful...!
Bah, perhaps if it does go, it'll go to Mike Beachy Head at Thunder City in South Africa. At least there it'll have a good home, but I think this one's even out of Mike's reach
DOC must be enourmous.
To be fair. The display lifetime of this aircraft is just 4 to 6 years and then there's no choice but to clip its wings at that point (unfortunately). Then it could be run in the US on an experimental register - don't even go there the wranglings we've had over this are unreal...!
I have been fortunate to see a Vulcan strut it's stuff and for a big aircraft it can seriously move. It's an incredibly impressive piece of kit which in it's day was incredibly advanced.
Bah, new like this gets on my goat. It's the bloody Labour government...! They scrapped the TSR2 as well - bastids...!
Grr, anyone fancy making a run on the lottery HQ in XH558...? I'll take your wing in a Lightning
It will be a terrible shame if we can't keep XH558. I'd love to snatch it up for WV322 Ltd, but the couple of Hunters we have are enough of a handful...!
Bah, perhaps if it does go, it'll go to Mike Beachy Head at Thunder City in South Africa. At least there it'll have a good home, but I think this one's even out of Mike's reach
DOC must be enourmous. To be fair. The display lifetime of this aircraft is just 4 to 6 years and then there's no choice but to clip its wings at that point (unfortunately). Then it could be run in the US on an experimental register - don't even go there the wranglings we've had over this are unreal...!
I have been fortunate to see a Vulcan strut it's stuff and for a big aircraft it can seriously move. It's an incredibly impressive piece of kit which in it's day was incredibly advanced.
Bah, new like this gets on my goat. It's the bloody Labour government...! They scrapped the TSR2 as well - bastids...!
Grr, anyone fancy making a run on the lottery HQ in XH558...? I'll take your wing in a Lightning
Just to keep this slightly on topic, did you know that the Vulcan was made by A V Roe of Lancaster Bomber fame...? Okay, maybe you did, BUT did you know that A V Roe himself was grandfather to one Bobby Verdon Roe of TVR Tuscan and GT fame...? Aha. Betcha didn't...!
Roop (shite facts boy)
Roop (shite facts boy)
F***, yet again something of a National Treasure may have to go abroad to be saved. The Lady was still in service upto 20 years ago, and cotributed a lot to our defence over the years, just the size of the craft at Duxford is enough to realise the power of the airplane.
The Lads and Ladies have put a lot of time, energy and cash into the restoration at Bruntingthorpe. As much as i'd hate to see her go,
if she can get flying again i'm all for it.
I can remember seeing 558 in flight, the sound of the 4 Olympus engines still resonates in me
unfortunately the Lottery commission seems to make the most sickening decisions recently.
The Lads and Ladies have put a lot of time, energy and cash into the restoration at Bruntingthorpe. As much as i'd hate to see her go,
if she can get flying again i'm all for it. I can remember seeing 558 in flight, the sound of the 4 Olympus engines still resonates in me
unfortunately the Lottery commission seems to make the most sickening decisions recently. being a pilot myself, it saddens me that this piece of history might go abroad. I am not british, but believe that it MUST stay here in the UK. I would love to open up them throttles and light that bird up if I had the chance as it is truly impressive airplane (in a cool brutally vulgar way 
like sticking two fingers up to the NIMBY/anti noise lobby..mmm,power...)
like sticking two fingers up to the NIMBY/anti noise lobby..mmm,power...)Thirty years ago, me dad would drive us up to Coningsby and we'd see the old Phantoms coming in all afternoon, then we'd go up to Waddington and see the big white Vulcans too.
Stalky!
Roop: Bobby Verdon-Roe, son of Eric Verdon-Roe, him of Haymarket Publishing fame, or not! Used to run an Alfa SZ years ago as a staff car!
Stalky!
Roop: Bobby Verdon-Roe, son of Eric Verdon-Roe, him of Haymarket Publishing fame, or not! Used to run an Alfa SZ years ago as a staff car!
mutley said:I can remember seeing 558 in flight, the sound of the 4 Olympus engines still resonates in me
I saw a Vulcan (maybe this one, maybe not) in the late 70s at a Leuchars air show - came in on low throttle over the runway, and then opened up - I think I've still got low frequency resonances bouncing around inside my chest! Wow.
The Americans are always a bit behind us Brits in development terms, remember the 'stealth' fighter (F117A), spec:
Sub-sonic,
Able to deliver a 2 ton bomb-load
Invisible to radar (almost)
We Brits had one of these in the early 1940's, called the De Havilland Mosquito, meets all the three main listed requirements.
Vulcan meets most of the B2 requirements as well, and is a hell of a lot prettier too. It will be a shame to see it go.
>> Edited by kevinday on Tuesday 19th November 10:52
Sub-sonic,
Able to deliver a 2 ton bomb-load
Invisible to radar (almost)
We Brits had one of these in the early 1940's, called the De Havilland Mosquito, meets all the three main listed requirements.
Vulcan meets most of the B2 requirements as well, and is a hell of a lot prettier too. It will be a shame to see it go.
>> Edited by kevinday on Tuesday 19th November 10:52
It's a shame, but military jets costing many millions per aircraft cannot be suited to being stored and run occasionally. The cost of airworthiness certification and the constant and complex maintenance required is beyone the financial reach of just about any individual.
It's a shame this vulcan has gone, and it seems that so much time and effort has been spent on it it must be very harsh on those whose dream it was to see it fly again.
In the future however I think we'll be lucky to see 'classic' tornadoes and harriers and similar recent aircraft. The cost will be too great for any small (or large) group of enthusiasts to realistically bear.
It's a shame this vulcan has gone, and it seems that so much time and effort has been spent on it it must be very harsh on those whose dream it was to see it fly again.
In the future however I think we'll be lucky to see 'classic' tornadoes and harriers and similar recent aircraft. The cost will be too great for any small (or large) group of enthusiasts to realistically bear.
The radar signature of the mosquito was orders of magnitude larger than that of the stealth planes the US has. The stealth bomber looks on radar about the same size as a .22 air rifle pellet. The mosquito doesn't.
You also need to look at where the maxima are on the radar echo. Stealth fighter's maxima do not point in the direction of flight. This is useful when attacking a radar equipped target.
You also need to look at where the maxima are on the radar echo. Stealth fighter's maxima do not point in the direction of flight. This is useful when attacking a radar equipped target.
the cold war is over!?!?..... Absolutely, a real shame - Mind you I am surprised on of the air museums isn't buying it
I can remember at age 9 or so - standing on top of Dunn Carn on the Isle of Raasey (near skye) this hill is about 350ft of sea level - beautiful sunny day. A Vulcan comes on a run at about 100 ft up the side of the island (of which Dunn Carn over looks the sea via a near vertical cliff) so we are looking down on to the plane . must have been going some - well over 300 mph .... then the noise hits you ...
then it circled and flew up the valley on the other side. AWESOME
Fantastic plane !
I can remember at age 9 or so - standing on top of Dunn Carn on the Isle of Raasey (near skye) this hill is about 350ft of sea level - beautiful sunny day. A Vulcan comes on a run at about 100 ft up the side of the island (of which Dunn Carn over looks the sea via a near vertical cliff) so we are looking down on to the plane . must have been going some - well over 300 mph .... then the noise hits you ...
then it circled and flew up the valley on the other side. AWESOME
Fantastic plane !
raceboy said: Has Clarkson really got one of these in his front garden?
Well, he definately put one there for one of his programmes. Dunno if its still there, though, as Mrs C didn't seem too pleased!
Back on topic...
Where I used to live as a nipper, we would often get Vulcans flying directly over the house at very low altitude as they struggled to gain height after taking off from Filton. Absolutely fantastic experience that I'll never forget, quite reminiscent of ID4 as they thundered overhead, blotting out the sky & shaking everything to bits!
Are these the guys who've been trying to get it airworthy for (IIRC) several years now?
northernboy said: The radar signature of the mosquito was orders of magnitude larger than that of the stealth planes the US has. The stealth bomber looks on radar about the same size as a .22 air rifle pellet. The mosquito doesn't.
You also need to look at where the maxima are on the radar echo. Stealth fighter's maxima do not point in the direction of flight. This is useful when attacking a radar equipped target.
Not true, the F117 is very visible on UK air defence radars, the Mosquito was built of wood and canvas, both of which are stealthy.
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