RE: Car Jacking Worries
Thursday 28th November 2002
Car Jacking Worries
We're all scared of it, yet most of us forget to do anything about it
Discussion
We're not far away from that crazy South African situation; you know? The time when cars have flame throwers under them because it's every Goddam man for himself...
Tell ya, our business has just had a vehicle heisted in the early hours of Monday AM (claim = nearly £70k inc vehicle) and so far ZERO response from plod.
I've mentioned this to a couple of chaps off-forum and when you are an actual 'victim of crime' and you experience the complete lack of police response it turns you into a frothing survivalist vigilante.
Crime is totally out of control in Blighty and it's time to bear arms. Fcuk 'em: I don't give a sh1t anymore - I'm being financially raped by the dogoodista in this country and it's me or them.
Kill, kill, kill!!!
We need undercover psychos in the force like the guy 'Cobra' (not one of Sly's better efforts but I appreciate the concept and sentiment), Dirty Harry and a legally empowered Jimmy Conway.
I would have no hesitation in opening fire on scum who wanna fcuk with my property so why is the law so Goddam gay?
Tell ya, our business has just had a vehicle heisted in the early hours of Monday AM (claim = nearly £70k inc vehicle) and so far ZERO response from plod.
I've mentioned this to a couple of chaps off-forum and when you are an actual 'victim of crime' and you experience the complete lack of police response it turns you into a frothing survivalist vigilante.
Crime is totally out of control in Blighty and it's time to bear arms. Fcuk 'em: I don't give a sh1t anymore - I'm being financially raped by the dogoodista in this country and it's me or them.
Kill, kill, kill!!!
We need undercover psychos in the force like the guy 'Cobra' (not one of Sly's better efforts but I appreciate the concept and sentiment), Dirty Harry and a legally empowered Jimmy Conway.
I would have no hesitation in opening fire on scum who wanna fcuk with my property so why is the law so Goddam gay?
Let's not get sucked into Daily Mail-world where there's a threat round every corner.
The sensational ITV 'documentary' last night on car crime was, to say the least, lax in the way its extrapolated from the specific to the general, its use of facts and stats, and the way it tried to develop trends from handfuls of incidents.
I don't want for a seond to say that stuff like that doesn't happen, nor that when it does it's very very scary and nasty. But let's get things into perspective.
When you compare the number of journeys people make against the number of incidents, especially since most incidents are concentrated in a relatively few areas -- even the programme last night couldn't disguise that -- the risk is pretty low.
Chill: it's not as bad you make out.
The sensational ITV 'documentary' last night on car crime was, to say the least, lax in the way its extrapolated from the specific to the general, its use of facts and stats, and the way it tried to develop trends from handfuls of incidents.
I don't want for a seond to say that stuff like that doesn't happen, nor that when it does it's very very scary and nasty. But let's get things into perspective.
When you compare the number of journeys people make against the number of incidents, especially since most incidents are concentrated in a relatively few areas -- even the programme last night couldn't disguise that -- the risk is pretty low.
Chill: it's not as bad you make out.
Interesting point about locking doors, though. I never do unless I'm driving through a dodgy area or I can see someone heading for the car and looking like they might want to leap in... I hate driving in locked cars, I like to have the option of getting out fast if I need to, like if there's a fire or something.
manek said: Let's not get sucked into Daily Mail-world where there's a threat round every corner.
The sensational ITV 'documentary' last night on car crime was, to say the least, lax in the way its extrapolated from the specific to the general, its use of facts and stats, and the way it tried to develop trends from handfuls of incidents.
I don't want for a seond to say that stuff like that doesn't happen, nor that when it does it's very very scary and nasty. But let's get things into perspective.
When you compare the number of journeys people make against the number of incidents, especially since most incidents are concentrated in a relatively few areas -- even the programme last night couldn't disguise that -- the risk is pretty low.
Chill: it's not as bad you make out.
Manek; I've lost £250k in the last six months to premier league villiany; my insurance premiums are so high it would be cheaper to hire the local mafia; we're spending half a mill on just one site's security and the police are about as much use as a fart in a space suit. Break in after break in after break in - it's SOUL DESTROYING!!! When you ante up, I reckon I've lost an absolute fortune over just the last 1 year and I ain't no big hitter PLC.
If you have a big stake in anything creative in this country you're often shagged and right now I feel thoroughly debagged and raddished.
The Daily mail's got eff all to do with how I feel and the more you deny the rise of the maggotry in society, the more you allow such scum and villainy oxygen with which to propogate.
We have a mass underground of criminality who should be rounded up and forced into mass tunnelling for an underground super highway that allows unfettered use of V12s & co. The fuzz know who they are but our emaciated system is too spineless to even contemplate the scale of the problem.
Make the bastards works, and damn hard and some of 'em may, just may, be reformable.
Alternatively, just arm me.
>> Edited by derestrictor on Thursday 28th November 10:05
derestrictor said:
I would have no hesitation in opening fire on scum who wanna fcuk with my property so why is the law so Goddam gay?
Just to take the urine even more, the C.P.S. has announced this morning a "Zero tolerance" policy on "Homophobic" crime! FFS.....
Next time your buisiness gets screwed just tell them your gay!
Superflid said:
Just to take the urine even more, the C.P.S. has announced this morning a "Zero tolerance" policy on "Homophobic" crime! FFS.....
Just in case you're wondering, I'm openly weeping.
Clueless peasants; maybe Cromwell's intentions were honorouble but the effect of a non-absolute monarchy, restored in 1660, bares it's toothless impotence today with a society that has a completely de-ranged value system.
Maybe the Met should employ Scooby Doo as their Commissioner? I'm sure their detection rates would go up.
Superflid said:
Just to take the urine even more, the C.P.S. has announced this morning a "Zero tolerance" policy on "Homophobic" crime! FFS.....
Next time your buisiness gets screwed just tell them your gay!
I saw that ,,,,, lost for words really , what is the point of such stupid initiatives shirly every one should get the same treatment , or are gays more likely to vote Labia ?
Regarding last nights ITV programme why do the majority of the scum bags featured on CCTV recordings have their faces hidden? Why can't they be named and shamed? It seems there is a small number of people responsible for most of these crimes. Take the tw@t in the red Nova, the arresting officer described him as a 'one man crime wave' yet he only gets a 2 year sentance, and how much of that will he serve?
Terminator said: Ok, so the Police actually catch the criminals and they go to court and get fined. Great. Then this happens.
Many of these people are human scum, they really are; I come across them all the time; quite hopeless really. They don't give a sh1t about you or anybody or anything; the ones that are beyond redemption (note my concession to the libs) should be dealt with, erm, differently.
Any ideas?
My car has a similar feature.. when your car's pointing at a potential car-jacker, you just press this pedal. The car automatically runs the car-jacker down, crushing them to death...
My car automatically locks the doors once you go over 5mph.
Keep that pedal pressed and you'll make a clean getaway too
I live in the North East and grew up in Middlesbrough. The best standard response by those scum sucking laughably self-refered to as "villans", is:
"Well, they shouldn't park their flashy cars round here then"
Or,
"Serves themselves right - posh b@stards"
Or,
"What did they expect, this is Middlesbrough"
I vote for cars that can electrify themselves or even redirectable exhaust gasses that fill the cabin with gas if the alarm is tripped.
"Well, they shouldn't park their flashy cars round here then"
Or,
"Serves themselves right - posh b@stards"
Or,
"What did they expect, this is Middlesbrough"
I vote for cars that can electrify themselves or even redirectable exhaust gasses that fill the cabin with gas if the alarm is tripped.
DErestrictor - everthought of clay pidgeon shooting
; like a certain Norfolk farmer... but seriously - I
know know you feel.
The police and the legal system is a complete ASS.
It is all stacked up in favour of the criminal.
It's just so much easier to catch a few speeding motorists... easy paying targets.
Best advice is never make it easy for criminals -
look over your security (car / home / warehouse)
like a criminal would..
i.e. How to commit crime un-disturbed, quickly,
quitely and quick easy get away path.
; like a certain Norfolk farmer... but seriously - I
know know you feel.
The police and the legal system is a complete ASS.
It is all stacked up in favour of the criminal.
It's just so much easier to catch a few speeding motorists... easy paying targets.
Best advice is never make it easy for criminals -
look over your security (car / home / warehouse)
like a criminal would..
i.e. How to commit crime un-disturbed, quickly,
quitely and quick easy get away path.
In a 4x4 or a MPV, maybe, but not in a TVR. Mine has only 11.7 cm ground clearance (I prefer metrication when it comes to measurements as it sounds more impressive than 4½ inches) and the smell of burnt flesh on the exhaust is a dead giveaway (pun intended)
CarZee said:My car has a similar feature.. when your car's pointing at a potential car-jacker, you just press this pedal. The car automatically runs the car-jacker down, crushing them to death...
Keep that pedal pressed and you'll make a clean getaway too
Unfortunately the bed wetters are becoming too numerous in numbers.
Here in West Oz they decided in their infinite wisdom to solve the problem of people not paying fines by automatically cancelling a drivers license if the fine is not paid.
Result. Lots of people driving around without a license and insurance because they didn't pay a fine which in many cases they didn't know they had incurred. (Like a parking fine)The mind boggles.
Over here it is illegal to use Pepper Spray against a mugger or car Jacker. Oh, and you think that a nice little city like Perth is safe from these crimes. Guess again.
Our culture is being destroyed by those I call "New age left wing loony tune hug a homesexual bed wetters".
Lets smite them.
Here in West Oz they decided in their infinite wisdom to solve the problem of people not paying fines by automatically cancelling a drivers license if the fine is not paid.
Result. Lots of people driving around without a license and insurance because they didn't pay a fine which in many cases they didn't know they had incurred. (Like a parking fine)The mind boggles.
Over here it is illegal to use Pepper Spray against a mugger or car Jacker. Oh, and you think that a nice little city like Perth is safe from these crimes. Guess again.
Our culture is being destroyed by those I call "New age left wing loony tune hug a homesexual bed wetters".
Lets smite them.
SGirl said: Interesting point about locking doors, though. I never do unless I'm driving through a dodgy area or I can see someone heading for the car and looking like they might want to leap in... I hate driving in locked cars, I like to have the option of getting out fast if I need to, like if there's a fire or something.
SGirl, I presume your Griff is the same as the Chimaera I used to have? Pressing the door lock in the middle of the central door release knob only locks the doors from the outside, not the inside.
Same's true of my current Tamora (and Tuscans).
Cheers.... Andrew
RJO - sorry to see your spectacular land also blighted by the extras from a Star Wars bar scene.
No pepper spray for muggers, eh? Strewth, bloody madness, mate; bloody madness.
Rev-erend - Tony Martin? When Norman finally assumes parliamentary premiership in this country, our heroic agricultivator will be the first to receive an invite to Buck House for investiture in an OBE for services rendered.
How about retasking GATSOs, SPECs, TRUVELOs, radars, etc, away from persecuting decent taxpayers and onto the impregnated transmitters about the persons of the multiply convicted criminal classes?
When curfew abuses or unrecognized meanderings are detected, the relevant action can ensue (whether it be a tannoy warning, physical arrest or something more, decisive) from the modified ED209 version of our beloved GATSO & family.
An acquaintance of mine has a courier franchise; after repeated ram raids, he installed a military grade, horizontal bar behind his most vulnerable portal. The police advised him that any injuries resulting therefrom would be on his head. Sound insanely similar to my old dealings with local councils on the subject of high mounted razor wire.
How dare I think of injuring some poor urchin, just because he's trying to wreck the livelihood of me and my employees and all their dependants!
No pepper spray for muggers, eh? Strewth, bloody madness, mate; bloody madness.
Rev-erend - Tony Martin? When Norman finally assumes parliamentary premiership in this country, our heroic agricultivator will be the first to receive an invite to Buck House for investiture in an OBE for services rendered.
How about retasking GATSOs, SPECs, TRUVELOs, radars, etc, away from persecuting decent taxpayers and onto the impregnated transmitters about the persons of the multiply convicted criminal classes?
When curfew abuses or unrecognized meanderings are detected, the relevant action can ensue (whether it be a tannoy warning, physical arrest or something more, decisive) from the modified ED209 version of our beloved GATSO & family.
An acquaintance of mine has a courier franchise; after repeated ram raids, he installed a military grade, horizontal bar behind his most vulnerable portal. The police advised him that any injuries resulting therefrom would be on his head. Sound insanely similar to my old dealings with local councils on the subject of high mounted razor wire.
How dare I think of injuring some poor urchin, just because he's trying to wreck the livelihood of me and my employees and all their dependants!
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