Lotus 111s or 111r?
Monday 14th November 2005

Gumpert Apollo production starts

Is 650bhp and 0-60mph in 3 secs enough?


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The Audi-based German supercar, the Gumpert Apollo, is just starting production.

Twelve cars have reportedly already been ordered, and the company plans to produce some 50 to 60 cars next year. The Apollo uses Audi's 4.2-litre V8 as found in the previous generation S8, with two huge KKK turbochargers, generating 650bhp and 597lb-ft of torque at 5,000rpm. Performance is 0-60mph in just three seconds with a top speed of 232mph. These big numbers have yet to be independently verified but the diminutive car -- it's about the size of a Lamborghini Gallardo -- is said to weigh just under 1,000Kg. This gives it a power-to-weight ratio that's said to be better than most supercars, including the Enzo, Carrera GT and McLaren F1.

Transmission to the rear wheels is via a DSG, with power on the road delivered by 19-inch wheels shod with 255/35 Pirelli P-Zeros at the front and 345/35s at the rear.

It's got huge aerodynamic downforce, according to some reports -- about 1,000Kg at 224mph -- from venturis and diffusers. Bodywork can be made from GRP or carbon-fibre, depending on the owner's preference.

The car will costs some €198,000 (about £133,000) which is not bad for that level of performance.

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alimac

Original Poster:

242 posts

247 months

Friday 6th January 2006
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Decided on Lotus and driven 111s which was great. looking for a second hand one up to 10k miles.This will be a second car and will be driven weekends etc. However is it S or R variant?

Sonic Nonsense

283 posts

247 months

Saturday 7th January 2006
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I have a 111s, and, although I admit I havne't driven a 111r, i've heard that the 111r needs its neck wringing to keep the power coming all the time. 111s has a more linear power delivery, but it's down to driving style. I've spoken to the local Lotus salesman, and apparently it doesn't make much difference, you just become accustomed to the one you happen to be driving and adjust accordingly.

Let the cries of "fool, the 111s/r is far better or a bzillion reasons" commence!!!!

Either way tho, awesome machines!


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>> Edited by Sonic Nonsense on Saturday 7th January 23:58

refresher

1,166 posts

241 months

Monday 9th January 2006
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111r is a great car. i've driven one a couple of times, power is instant and by the bucketful. sport cam kicks in at 6500 rpm and gives an extra shove in the back that initially was unexpected but then worked for every time.

i've also driven its cousins the VX220 and VX220 R - the VX220 R is pretty close to the lotus but i'd still take the lotus badged one.

'fresher

alimac

Original Poster:

242 posts

247 months

Monday 9th January 2006
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Right 111r it is, if i went for the S version i would always be wondering..........
Now lets find one!

xiphias

5,889 posts

249 months

Monday 9th January 2006
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Is it me, or is this posted as response to the gumpert news?!?!

munky

5,328 posts

270 months

Friday 27th January 2006
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xiphias said:
Is it me, or is this posted as response to the gumpert news?!?!


Yeah that confused me as well