More speed cameras....
More speed cameras....
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douglasr

Original Poster:

1,092 posts

293 months

Tuesday 11th February 2003
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From the BBC:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2747607.stm

and I quote:

"But the government believes drivers now accept the need for speed cameras"

It seems the government are as out of touch with this issue as they are with the Iraq issue...

skittle

312 posts

282 months

Tuesday 11th February 2003
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From the BBC:

although a hard core of reckless drivers continue to ignore them.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2747607.stm

I guess we can classify Harriet Harmen in this group then

skittle

312 posts

282 months

Tuesday 11th February 2003
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Also, it quotes that it saved the taxpayer £112 million

that works out at £400k per accident

Seems excessive to me

Don

28,378 posts

305 months

Tuesday 11th February 2003
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This really does make my blood boil.

And I'm one of the guys who thinks having them in town near areas where pedestrians and cars must mix (e.g. SCHOOLS, HOSPITALS, CAR PARKS) could be a GOOD idea.

I can't condone blowing them up or burning them down.

Hardly at all. Even a little bit.

I didn't used to think like that - and I don't like people speeding near my house as much as the next man.
But you just don't see these fcuking things in the places they'd do any good.

And I (personally - on the A303 - witnessed it myself) have seen fatal accidents CAUSED by them as inobservant motorists spot them at the last moment and overreact.

Ah well. All talk and no action does nothing. Remember to ask your local councillor about they're attitude to speed cameras locally. They give you the wrong answer - you let them know in no uncertain terms you won't vote for them.

Same for your MP. Its election time in a year or two. Ask them where they stand on Transport issues. Say you will not vote for 'em if you get answers you don't like.

That's what I'll be doing.

Big_M

5,602 posts

284 months

Tuesday 11th February 2003
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I read somewhere that the motorist contribute 10% of the total revenue for this country in taxes and fines.

gnomesmith

2,458 posts

297 months

Tuesday 11th February 2003
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Big_M said: I read somewhere that the motorist contribute 10% of the total revenue for this country in taxes and fines.


As most people are, at one time or another, 'motorists' that figure seems rather low. Could it perhaps relate to fuel tax, road tax etc, traffic based fines only?

chimburt

751 posts

280 months

Tuesday 11th February 2003
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this sounds like a call to arms.
rubber and petrol, together at last.


ian d

986 posts

276 months

Wednesday 12th February 2003
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these things are a flippin pest, especially the mobile ones, which caught me, 53 mph and still aceelerating in a 40 and my cousin doing 90 ish over rannoch moor near glen coe (beware the deer they've not read the green cross code) they are always in the wrong place.

if you look at it logically(captain) all cars can now do well in excess of current limits in either town, A road or motorway. so the limits are now wrong having been set decades ago. i agree with the 30 in town and that is where the majority of cameras should be, ie schools, town centres etc. the rest are purely to impose the ancient limits & taxation purposes.

the main problem area is that the powers that be don't realise that speed itself is not the problem but inappropriate speed (traffic, car & driver etc) for the road. until the numpties in power get that message and raise the limits on A roads & motorways these cameras are going to sprout like weeds all over the country, or we could do some "gardening".

deltaf

1,384 posts

278 months

Wednesday 12th February 2003
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I think the authorities DO realise that speed dosnt kill.
They simply dont care, and just want to make money. Greedy parasites.
Gatso=Money=easy life.

robp

5,803 posts

285 months

Wednesday 12th February 2003
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deltaf said: I think the authorities DO realise that speed dosnt kill.
They simply dont care, and just want to make money. Greedy parasites.
Gatso=Money=easy life.


So true. For years we all have been banging on about the difference between speeding and INAPROPIATE SPEED. Why cant they just admit - the cameras are where they are TO MAKE MONEY

porky

201 posts

276 months

Friday 14th February 2003
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Speed cameras are just a money making exercise and a curb on people's liberties. The fact is the Police cannot catch those drivers who are a genuine danger because they are incompetent so they hit their conviction targets by "nicking" otherwise proficient and law abiding drivers for speeding. They should focus on ways to catch those driving without insurance, MOT or basic road skills as these are the REALLY dangerous people.

A previous post said "it is not speed that is the problem but inappropriate speed for the road conditions". This is absolutely right.

I got pulled for doing 93mph on M5 at 5am with three other vehicles on the road. I was not a danger to anyone - the police driver even complemented me on my driving as I had thought ahead and pulled out to allow another car to overtake a lorry!

I am not wining about being fined - "it was a fair cop" but I just wonder if we have our priorities right sometimes.