RE: Future of driving looks grim
RE: Future of driving looks grim
Friday 3rd November 2006

Future of driving looks grim

Study finds we won't be driving at all


"Just doing my email..."
"Just doing my email..."
The company car driver of the future will be paying no attention at all to the road and the vehicles around them.

That's the future as perceived by Škoda, which today published the results of a study it commissioned from the think-tank, Centre for Future Studies. The study reckoned the company car of the future "is set to be revolutionised over the next 40 years".

By 2050, fleet vehicles are to become a “virtual colleague” to company car drivers, thanks to increased robotisation, which will hand over control to the vehicle. Škoda said that this will boost road safety and enable motorists to use their travelling time to watch the morning news, video conference or answer emails.

Manufacturers will implement haptic systems – a set of technologies from the aerospace industry that add a sense of touch to the man-made interface - to warn of dangerous conditions or even wake up drowsy drivers by vibrating the steering wheel or activating actuators in the driver’s seat.

The office will extend to the car, enabling the company car driver to have full interaction over the Internet with the office computer and personal assistant, meaning motorists can do the majority of what is done in the office, in the car. Essentially, vehicles will become a virtual colleague with full communication interaction, said Škoda. Features will include technology that can read out incoming emails to the driver, allow the driver to dictate responses, permit the driver to set up meetings, update to-do lists and write short memos.

Automated highway systems will operate on major commuter routes, creating trains of automatically controlled cars that travel close together at high speed. The agent-based software will also calculate the most cost-effective route for every journey.

However, with technology come perils; it will come as no surprise to many that company car drivers will lose their map reading abilities as dependence on satellite navigation becomes far more widespread.

Commenting on the findings of the study Dr Frank Shaw from the Centre for Future Studies said: "Škoda is to be applauded for thinking about how we will use vehicles in the future. The most effective car manufacturers spot the trends of tomorrow and start building them into the cars of today.

"The key drivers of change determining the design, manufacture and usage of the car of the future are technology, energy supply and demographics. Technology will make cars safer, cleaner and more intelligent and will also provide alternatives to our oil dependency. The car of the future will be far more of a versatile, eco-friendly, cyber-connected travelling space.”

Škoda's sales chief Martin Burke said: “Clever car design that enhances the vehicle’s experience is central to Škoda’s current and future success. This report is an important part of helping Škoda engineers to think about how people will use cars in the future and design vehicles that meet those needs.

"This forward thinking is evident in our fourth model, the Roomster, and even more so in our Yeti and Joyster concept cars."

So much for the thrill of driving...

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pistolp

Original Poster:

1,719 posts

245 months

Friday 3rd November 2006
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i'd rather a robot took the stick and not me for driving a skoda!

Fire99

9,863 posts

252 months

Friday 3rd November 2006
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Well take it from a control freak..
I work with computers every day and the last thing i want is my car being driven by one.
Before mobile phones became the norm (and small) a salesman collegue at the time told me that when he was driving it was the only time he got a break from work.

I enjoy driving and i make a point of not having a car-kit for my phone so when im in the car its just me, my music and the controls..

I'm not a computer and dont fancy being treated like one..

nickjm

361 posts

253 months

Friday 3rd November 2006
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On the up side, you could drive to a pub, have a few too many and the car drives you back home.

GTRene

20,890 posts

247 months

Friday 3rd November 2006
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They better find out a more Robots to do the work for us, at least the dangerous or heavy work, with robots doing that the streets are not that crowded anymore and we can enjoy our cars better

A car is not just a vehicle that drives you from A to B...
It can also be good fun and/or a hobby to do...
Also with a hobby/funcar you can drive from A to B with a big grin...

So keep the Robots for work! I want to drive my sportscar myself!
Ofcorse for public transport Robots are fine! or for people who don't give a sh*t about cars...
GTRene

StephenJJones

10 posts

233 months

Friday 3rd November 2006
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nickjm said:
On the up side, you could drive to a pub, have a few too many and the car drives you back home.


I like your thinking beer

mini_ralf

8,996 posts

240 months

Friday 3rd November 2006
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Let me get this right then... I can start work before getting into the office and finish after I've left the office? Does this mean that I still have to prostitute myself for 8 hours a day with an extra 1 1/2 hours thrown on top? I suppose a pay rise would be out of the question for all the extra work. Can hardly wait furious

apthomson

21 posts

301 months

Friday 3rd November 2006
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You can safely do all that 'office' stuff on long journeys today ... It's a service that trains have been providing for many years.

I like driving ... leave my car alone

shadowninja

79,283 posts

305 months

Friday 3rd November 2006
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You don't have to work. You can sleep or watch DVDs or listen to music or read or masturbate...

I don't particularly enjoy sitting in crawling rushhour traffic so would welcome a system like this - assuming it didn't run on Windows...

moff73

2 posts

261 months

Friday 3rd November 2006
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shadowninja said:
You don't have to work. You can sleep or watch DVDs or listen to music or read or masturbate...

I don't particularly enjoy sitting in crawling rushhour traffic so would welcome a system like this - assuming it didn't run on Windows...


If you're planning to masturbate in your car, I hope it doesn't have Windows too!! hehe

Griffter

4,143 posts

278 months

Friday 3rd November 2006
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"The most effective car manufacturers spot the trends of tomorrow and start building them into the cars of today."

Isn't that a self-fulfilling prophecy?

Thank goodness not all manufacturers are so obsessed with gimmickery. On the rare occasions I walk into a showroom and express my opinion on self-levelling, auto-dip, power-assisted, fly-by-wire cup holders, salesmen think I'm crazy. "But it's cool - makes life so much easier". "Well I don't want it. I don't need it and it'll just break".

summit7

1,077 posts

252 months

Friday 3rd November 2006
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I think Skoda has missed the point here - due to the digital connectivity revolution in 40 years time we won't be commuting so won't need to be able to business in our car. Agree with the previous comment cars are for driving not for all this added functionality creep away from the sole purpose of driving - auto this auto that what a bag of shite WHERES MY SEVEN!

splodge s4

1,519 posts

260 months

Friday 3rd November 2006
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So we will be able to 'set up meetings, update todo lists & write SHORT memos'

Why only short memos? A minor point maybe but if this computer controlled robot car is so dam clever it can drive for hours without crashing surely it could handle long memos?

Anyway....

appletonn

699 posts

283 months

Friday 3rd November 2006
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moff73 said:
shadowninja said:
You don't have to work. You can sleep or watch DVDs or listen to music or read or masturbate...

I don't particularly enjoy sitting in crawling rushhour traffic so would welcome a system like this - assuming it didn't run on Windows...


If you're planning to masturbate in your car, I hope it doesn't have Windows too!! hehe


biglaugh biglaugh

havoc

32,587 posts

258 months

Friday 3rd November 2006
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appletonn said:
moff73 said:
shadowninja said:
You don't have to work. You can sleep or watch DVDs or listen to music or read or masturbate...

I don't particularly enjoy sitting in crawling rushhour traffic so would welcome a system like this - assuming it didn't run on Windows...


If you're planning to masturbate in your car, I hope it doesn't have Windows too!! hehe


biglaugh biglaugh

Probably the only occasion where having your computer go down on you could be a good thing?!?
hehe

:coat:

havoc

32,587 posts

258 months

Friday 3rd November 2006
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More seriously...the technology could be used for good, but is bound to be used by governments for 'control' purposes.

lathamjohnp

4,477 posts

307 months

Friday 3rd November 2006
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Fire99 said:
Well take it from a control freak..I work with computers every day and the last thing i want is my car being driven by one.


Me too, but ISTR from safety-critical systems lectures at Uni the subject of human overrides to automated safety systems. Went something like this...

Consider some safety critical system where a binary decision must be made, and the wrong choice results in much death...

- A human may have 1 in 100,000 chance of making the wrong decision
- A computer may have 1 in a million chance of making the wrong decision
- Given the choice of overriding the computer decision, the human will always do so, regardless of the fact that he's(*) more likely to be wrong.
- Ergo, it's safer to remove the manual override.

* I say "he", because if it was a woman she'd say to the computer "fine, you make the decision but if you're wrong it's your fault".

Personally, I think fully automated cars would be great. I''ll take the optional "driver's beer fridge"...

tonto

2,983 posts

271 months

Friday 3rd November 2006
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Fire99 said:
Well take it from a control freak..I work with computers every day and the last thing i want is my car being driven by one.


Hi,

I'll be your driver for today, just sit back and relax!

havoc

32,587 posts

258 months

Friday 3rd November 2006
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lathamjohnp said:
- Ergo, it's safer to remove the manual override.

Which is why these are a BAD thing, as anyone who actually LIKES driving will in future not be allowed to do so.

lathamjohnp

4,477 posts

307 months

Friday 3rd November 2006
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havoc said:
anyone who actually LIKES driving will in future not be allowed to do so.


Well, I wouldn't mind if my hypothetical auto-motorhome (towing trailered hypothetical Radical) could drive me overnight to a track day at a circuit 400 miles away, then back again.

Is road driving really that fun?

In any case, the systems would no doubt only work on motorways for the foreseeable future, which would discourage "normal" people from blocking up the fun roads.

John

havoc

32,587 posts

258 months

Friday 3rd November 2006
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lathamjohnp said:
Is road driving really that fun?

Oh yes

A good B-road outside of rush-hour is a joy to behold.