RE: Light shed on dirty fuel problem
Friday 2nd March 2007
The dirty fuel problem that we highlighted yesterday has become a little clearer.
Light shed on dirty fuel problem
Could there be anti-freeze in your tank?
According to Autocar, the fuel may have been contaminated with anti-freeze. Motorists all over the country experienced problems after filling up from petrol stations situated mainly in the south-east. One PHer wrote that the problem had resulted in a damaged lambda sensor which had cost him £90 to replace.
Analysis by the AA suggest that the damage was caused by silicon or silicates, which can be found in anti-freeze but which is never found in unleaded petrol.
Some say that supermarket fuel is to blame -- one motor engineer wrote on PH's forums that oxygen sensor faults, burnt valves, catalytic converter faults and many other engine management problems have been found in cars filled with fuel from supermarkets but not from single-brand petrol stations.
Tesco issued a statement yesterday in which it denied responsibility: "We source from exactly the same suppliers and our fuel originates from the same depots as many of our competitors, and so if a problem did emerge it could not by definition be Tesco-specific."
Discussion
Enough evidence to prove the product was faulty? I'm not sure. I see long legal cases (and plenty of fraudulent ones too) coming out of this.
The only 'winners' are the dodgy mechanics and dealers who are changing 02 sensors for every fault brought in to them this week. "your brake lights are out? Thats the 02 sensor luv - do you use Tesco's?"
The only 'winners' are the dodgy mechanics and dealers who are changing 02 sensors for every fault brought in to them this week. "your brake lights are out? Thats the 02 sensor luv - do you use Tesco's?"
Tesco should get the record straight otherwise the backlash could be huge
people would start shopping elsewhere for food and petrol...
angry motorists would most certainly start an anti-Tesco campaign
you do not necessarily need to go to court to inflict damages to a firm nowadays...
people would start shopping elsewhere for food and petrol...
angry motorists would most certainly start an anti-Tesco campaign
you do not necessarily need to go to court to inflict damages to a firm nowadays...
I don't see why there is such an emphasis on blaming the Supermarkets. They don't made the petrol. What ever is in it is not there fault. They just buy the stuff then sell it on.
The questions should be asked about who is producing the fuel, and what has gone wrong. As much as I hate the dominance of Tesco, they are innocent and shouldn't held responsible.
The questions should be asked about who is producing the fuel, and what has gone wrong. As much as I hate the dominance of Tesco, they are innocent and shouldn't held responsible.
wab172uk said:
I don't see why there is such an emphasis on blaming the Supermarkets. They don't made the petrol. What ever is in it is not there fault. They just buy the stuff then sell it on.
er no. i pay Tesco for the fuel, not their supplier. I buy it on the assumption that Tesco are selling me goods which are fit for purpose and not something which is contaminated and causes problems to my car. If i bought a loaf of bread at Tesco that was in date but found to be mouldy, i'd take it back to Tesco and get a refund not complain to Hovis or whoever.
i don't pay their supplier and don't care about Tescos supplier - they are supposed to perform quality control on the product to ensure its fit for sale so its heir problem to resolve my problem but i would imagine they'd then pass on the costs and charges to their supplier.
Edited by refresher on Friday 2nd March 13:16
wab172uk said:
I don't see why there is such an emphasis on blaming the Supermarkets. They don't made the petrol. What ever is in it is not there fault. They just buy the stuff then sell it on.
Because the contract for purchase of this potentially faulty good is between the customer and retailer. They then pursue their supplier... etc
Whether or not tesco/Morisons/Asda have sold contaminated fuel, this is without doubt a PR disaster for them. Someone with a brain from these companies needs to stop all the finger pointing and shrugging, identify what has happened, and start reassuring us that their petrol isn't full of contaminants. Or they might find that their 43%(?) market share drops rather rapidly. Personnaly, I'm going to buy brand name stuff for a while until we know the truth.
Look it is not just Tesco or Morrison.
I filled up on Wednesday night at my local Total as the tank was extremely low. 58 litres of unleaded. Immeditely the car violently backfired and ran like a dog, no power and kangarooing. Low-loader to my mechanic (top Porsche man) and £117 later problem solved.
Total station mamager: "You are the first complaint we have had sir. Our office has told us the list of effected stations and we are not one."
My reply: "So what are you inferring, that I am a liar?"
Manager: "No sir, but phone our Helpline, here is the number."
I call: "Sorry but this number is not available."
I filled up on Wednesday night at my local Total as the tank was extremely low. 58 litres of unleaded. Immeditely the car violently backfired and ran like a dog, no power and kangarooing. Low-loader to my mechanic (top Porsche man) and £117 later problem solved.
Total station mamager: "You are the first complaint we have had sir. Our office has told us the list of effected stations and we are not one."
My reply: "So what are you inferring, that I am a liar?"
Manager: "No sir, but phone our Helpline, here is the number."
I call: "Sorry but this number is not available."
wab172uk said:
I don't see why there is such an emphasis on blaming the Supermarkets. They don't made the petrol. What ever is in it is not there fault. They just buy the stuff then sell it on.
The questions should be asked about who is producing the fuel, and what has gone wrong. As much as I hate the dominance of Tesco, they are innocent and shouldn't held responsible.
The questions should be asked about who is producing the fuel, and what has gone wrong. As much as I hate the dominance of Tesco, they are innocent and shouldn't held responsible.
LOL, funniest post i've read in days.
Tesco innocent. LOL. Biggest high street bully in the land innocent. give us all a break.
Pay the lowest price, get the lowest quality product or service.
JUSTIN TIME said:
Please don't think of Sainsbury's in with "supermarket" fuel. Sainsbury's is BP.
Is that so? Does that mean that Sainsburys fuel is the same as BP and hence all the arguements about supermarket fuel being inferior cos it doesn't have all the additives is not applicable to Sainsburys?
Jon
MGV8 said:
From tests at the forcout thay should know which stations are effected. From the credit card info should say who filled up with that fuel.
Why are we not geting a list of times and stations that had the problem fuel????
Why are we not geting a list of times and stations that had the problem fuel????
Problem is, this started happening a couple of weeks ago seemingly, so the "bad batch" has probably left the majority of forecourts now. Any forecourt testing would show no problem with the fuel.
wab172uk said:
I don't see why there is such an emphasis on blaming the Supermarkets. They don't made the petrol. What ever is in it is not there fault. They just buy the stuff then sell it on.
The questions should be asked about who is producing the fuel, and what has gone wrong. As much as I hate the dominance of Tesco, they are innocent and shouldn't held responsible.
The questions should be asked about who is producing the fuel, and what has gone wrong. As much as I hate the dominance of Tesco, they are innocent and shouldn't held responsible.
I assume thats satire right....right?
joe_90 said:
wab172uk said:
I don't see why there is such an emphasis on blaming the Supermarkets. They don't made the petrol. What ever is in it is not there fault. They just buy the stuff then sell it on.
The questions should be asked about who is producing the fuel, and what has gone wrong. As much as I hate the dominance of Tesco, they are innocent and shouldn't held responsible.
The questions should be asked about who is producing the fuel, and what has gone wrong. As much as I hate the dominance of Tesco, they are innocent and shouldn't held responsible.
I assume thats satire right....right?
Your contract is with the retailer. It's their responsibility to recoup their costs from the supplier
edit:sorry, just read other posts saying exactly this. When will i have the imagination to invent my own posts??
Edited by Slikk on Friday 2nd March 14:33
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