Monday 2nd June 2003

Slow Down for Clean Air?

Blast through as quick as you can or linger with your cleaner emissions?

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[swilly]

I would have thought that preventing queues and jams would reduce emmissions.

[CraigAlsop]

It is going to depend on the car - I would imagine that a TVR's sweet spot for low(er) emissions is going to be a lot higher than a black cabs for example.

[thanuk]

Causing a car to slow for a short distance and then accelerate is certainly going to make more emissions than allowing it to continue at a constant speed.

I guess they either a) haven't thought it through or b) don't mind increasing overall emissions as long as they move them away from Meadowhall?

Presumably they're planning to install speed humps on the M1 to enforce the slowing down?

[chickensoup]

my guess is that 70mph in 5th would be better than 50 in 4th, but a steady speed certainly better than slowing / speeding up.

Los Angeles with a 50 limit does not seem that good

[cdp]

I wonder what the effect of all the vehicles (especially buses) around the car park of the shopping centre is? Maybe closing the shopping centre would make the best improvement and cut down on congestion. I HATE shopping, especially at malls - use the town instead.

[james_j]

I should have thought that a 70 mph motorway with a 70mph limit suddenly becoming a 50 mph limit would cause a back-up of traffic congestion and thus more pollution.

Isn't this obvious or have I missed something?

[m-five]

I'd of thought that with the closure of all the steelworks there would be less polution?

[robp]

"M1 Corridor Clean Air Partnership"

"Safety Camera Partnership"

Where are these 'partnerships' all coming from eh? How about

"Keeping B-roads Free For Hooning Down Partnership"


It seems that all these tree huggers do all day is set up new partnerships.

[The DJ 27]

robp said: "M1 Corridor Clean Air Partnership"

"Safety Camera Partnership"

Where are these 'partnerships' all coming from eh? How about

"Keeping B-roads Free For Hooning Down Partnership"


It seems that all these tree huggers do all day is set up new partnerships.

You got a point there

[mikeylad]

The DJ 27 said:

robp said: "M1 Corridor Clean Air Partnership"

"Safety Camera Partnership"

Where are these 'partnerships' all coming from eh? How about

"Keeping B-roads Free For Hooning Down Partnership"


It seems that all these tree huggers do all day is set up new partnerships.

You got a point there

i agree. hey, we should form a partnership!

(crikey, its catching)

[robp]

Go to google and type in partnership.......there is so much crap that comes up its almost amusing

[mybrainhurts]

james_j said: I should have thought that a 70 mph motorway with a 70mph limit suddenly becoming a 50 mph limit would cause a back-up of traffic congestion and thus more pollution.

Isn't this obvious or have I missed something?

Yes, you've missed the point that these clowns are only concerned with the Tinsley bit.

If they get their way, it's tuff titty for Derbyshire, Notts and beyond.

[simon5480]

This is phase 2 of their grand policy to drive us from our cars, yet again without the rigor of true research they have decided its down to the humble car yet again and of course once its declared a success as it will, fix speed cameras will appear to enforce it, maby even the use of "specs"

[ribbo]

thanuk said:

Presumably they're planning to install speed humps on the M1 to enforce the slowing down?

ha.. you could imagine the fun they would cause

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[Robbo1]

As people have rightly pointed out in the M1 Air Action guest book, a major A-road runs underneath the motorway at this point (usually heavily populated by ageing buses in my experience). It's also next to the Meadowhall car parks (and a sewage treatment works).
So it must be the M1 causing the pollution, right?
Haven't these people got anything better to do?