Thursday 5th June 2003

Engine Oscars

Tears and laughter as Honda scoop gong for best 1.8 to 2.0 litre engine. Full results here.

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[james]

So I have the best performance engine in the world in my car then

[golem]

RX8 - Go Mazda! Ahh, good to see they're back from the Beige old days.
But the Cooper S motor? What about the 2's MZR unit? or the Celica's 1.8? For a cheaper scale coupe, the specific power of that thing is incredible and no doubt has trademark toyota reliability.

[sagalout]

"It's a bit like the Oscars, but more emotional and with more revealing dresses. The International Engine of the Year Awards attract people from around the world in the hope of receiving one of the coveted awards."

So lift your piston skirt hemlines and get your gudgeons out for the lads then.....

[RobDickinson]

Woot pages of drivel about honda's great 2ltr but no mention of the engine that won 3 awards including overall best engine?

Heh I say Biased! But so am I , deposit paid on my RX-8

[v8thunder]

What about 'best noise' catagory? - surely nailed-on for the Alfa Romeo 3.0 V6?

[lotuslad]

I have worked with the Awards over the past few years, and the Toyota unit did fare well.

Overall results were:

Best fuel economy:
Honda 1.3-litre IMA (Civic Hybrid), Toyota 1.5-litre (Prius), Honda 1-litre IMA (Insight), Volkswagen 1.2-litre TDi (Audi A2; VW Lupo 3L), PSA Peugeot-Citroën/Ford Diesel 1.4-litre (Peugeot 307; Citroën C3, Xsara; Ford Fiesta, Fusion; Mazda 2/Demio), Volkswagen 1.9-litre TDi (Audi A3, A4, A6; Seat Ibiza, Leon, Toledo, Alhambra; Skoda Superb; VW Golf, Bora, Passat, Touran, Sharan).

Best performance engine:
Mercedes-AMG 55 V8 (E55, SL55, S55, CL55), Audi 4.2-litre V8 (RS6), BMW 3.2-litre (M3), Ferrari 5.7-litre V12 (575M), Porsche 3.6-litre (911 GT3), Honda 2-litre (S2000)

Best new engine 2003:
Mazda RENESIS Rotary (RX-8), Audi 4.2-litre V8 (RS6), BMW 6-litre V12 (760i), BMW Diesel 3-litre (330d, 730d), Mercedes-Benz 5.5-litre (S600, CL600), Maybach 5.5-litre

Sub 1-litre:
Honda 1-litre IMA (Insight), Smart 698cc (City Coupé/Roadster), Toyota 1-litre (Yaris/Echo/Vitz), Smart Diesel 799cc (City Coupé), Nissan 1-litre (Micra/March), Opel/Vauxhall 1-litre (Agila, Corsa).

1-1.4 litre:
Honda 1.3-litre IMA (Civic Hybrid), PSA Peugeot-Citroën/Ford Diesel 1.4-litre (Peugeot 307; Citroën C3, Xsara; Ford Fiesta, Fusion; Mazda 2/Demio), Volkswagen 1.4-litre FSI (Audi A2; VW Lupo, Polo), Toyota Diesel 1.4-litre (Yaris/Echo/Vitz), Honda 1.4-litre (1.3-litre) (Jazz/Fit), Volkswagen 1.2-litre TDi (Audi A2; VW Lupo 3L).

1.4-1.8 litre:
MINI Supercharged 1.6-litre (Cooper S), Toyota 1.5-litre (Prius), Toyota 1.8-litre VVTL-i 190 (Celica, Corolla), Ford 1.8-litre TDCi (Focus), BMW 1.8-litre Valvetronic (316ti), Mercedes-Benz 1.8-litre GDI supercharged (CLK).

1.8-2 litre:
Honda 2-litre (S2000), BMW 2-litre Valvetronic (318i), Subaru 2-litre Turbo (Impreza (225-280bhp);Legacy/Lancaster/Outback (260/280bhp); Forester (177/250bhp)), BMW Diesel 2-litre (320d), Fiat Diesel 1.9-litre JTD (Alfa Romeo 147,156), Alfa Romeo 2-litre JTS (156).

2-2.5 litre:
BMW 2.5-litre (325i, 525i, Z4), PSA Peugeot-Citroën 2.2-litre HDi (Peugeot 406, 607, 807; Citroën C5, C8), Honda 2.4-litre (Accord/Element), Volkswagen 2.5-litre V6 TDi (Audi A4, Allroad, A8; Skoda Superb; VW Passat), Saab 2.3-litre Turbo (9-5), Volvo 2.5-litre Turbo (S60R).

2.5-3 litre:
Mazda RENESIS Rotary (RX-8), BMW Diesel 3-litre (330d, 730d), BMW 3-litre (330i, 530i, Z4, X5, 730i), Mercedes-Benz Diesel 2.7-litre (C-Class, E-Class, ML), Honda 3-litre V6 (Accord), Porsche 2.7-litre (Boxster).

3-4 litre:
BMW 3.2-litre (M3), Porsche 3.6-litre (911 GT3), Porsche 3.6-litre Turbo (911 Turbo), Nissan 3.5-litre V6 (350Z/350GT, Infiniti FX35), Diesel 3.9-litre V8 (740d), Ferrari 3.6-litre V8 (360 Modena/Spider).

4 litre and above:
Volkswagen Diesel 5-litre V10, BMW 6-litre V12 (760i), Ferrari 5.7-litre V12 (575M), BMW 4.4-litre V8 Valvetronic (745i), Mercedes-Benz 5.5-litre (S600, CL600), Audi 4.2-litre V8 (RS6).

International engine of the year:
Mazda RENESIS Rotary (RX-8), Volkswagen Diesel 5-litre V10 (Touareg/Phaeton), BMW 3.2-litre (M3), Honda 1.3-litre IMA (Civic Hybrid), Honda 2-litre (S2000), BMW 2.5-litre (325i, 525i, Z4), MINI Supercharged 1.6-litre (Cooper S), Honda 1-litre IMA (Insight).

[tuscan_s]

Do you know if a TVR engine was up for nomination?

[james]

tuscan_s said: Do you know if a TVR engine was up for nomination?

In what category? "Best worn finger follower", or "Most annoying rattle"?

[wild]

Why is the RENESIS classed in the 2.5 litre to 3 litre category?

[tuscan_s]

Try telling that to Autocar who, for some reason, seem to think it is one of the best engines out of half a dozen in the world.

James, your joke is boring and out of date. Ever heard a Ferrari 355 start up in the morning? They sound shit too. Just like your last post really.

[Alex]

I thought the RX8 engine was a 1.6 litre?

Mini Cooper S?? "Award for making a silk purse out of a sow's ear"?

[RobDickinson]

Renasis is 1.3 (2x 653 cc rotors).

Cant realy be compared to a 1.3 cylinder engine though. It Breaths as a 2.6 petrol. Each rotor has 3 combustion chambers and fires once each rev instead of once /2 rev.

But then again rotors only rotate 1/3rd the shaft speed. So 2 rotor engine @ 9k rpm = 4 cylinder @ 3krpm. Mebe. I try not to think about it realy..

[lotuslad]

I'm afraid TVR was not nominated as the Awards are for mass-produced engines only. Don't be too despondent though as the Enzo unit also failed to make the cut.

As for the Renesis, it was put in the 2.5-3 litre category as it is the equivalent of a 2.6-litre when in motion and is officially classified as part of this category by some European states.

[tuscan_s]

Ah that's alright then!

Edited to say - So how many Ferrari 5.7l V12's do they make then?

>> Edited by tuscan_s on Friday 6th June 11:18