Prime Minister proposal to ban/restrict use of older cars
Prime Minister proposal to ban/restrict use of older cars
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nickw2000

Original Poster:

5 posts

218 months

Monday 7th January 2008
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http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/Classic-Cars/

all sighn please


Several EU proposals across the years are dangerous to the classic car movement. One that has been under consideration is to ban the use of cars older than 10 years. Similarly, Edinburgh City Council is considering the banning of cars over 15 years old from the town centre. These, and similar, proposals directly threaten the classic car movement, and encourage the manufacture of new cars, with the attendent environmental issues of sourcing raw materials, manufacturing, distriuting and scrapping the spiralling supply of new vehicles.

cymtriks

4,561 posts

268 months

Tuesday 8th January 2008
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Done.

Come on guys, sign up!

ATG

22,932 posts

295 months

Tuesday 8th January 2008
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Can anyone provide links to substantiate the claimed risk?

truckit

812 posts

229 months

Tuesday 8th January 2008
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What next, banning you from sh-ting in a public toilet?

Never a day goes by without another threat to our liberties, it just seems like they are pushing us all the time into civil unrest!

Balmoral Green

42,554 posts

271 months

Tuesday 8th January 2008
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ATG said:
Can anyone provide links to substantiate the claimed risk?
No.

But there is a link debunking it...

http://www.fbhvc.co.uk/news/index.htm



Edited by Balmoral Green on Tuesday 8th January 17:29

ATG

22,932 posts

295 months

Tuesday 8th January 2008
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Balmoral Green said:
ATG said:
Can anyone provide links to substantiate the claimed risk?
No.

But there is a link debunking it...

http://www.fbhvc.co.uk/news/index.htm



Edited by Balmoral Green on Tuesday 8th January 17:29
Class. Thanks, assumed it must be boocks, but nice to have it confirmed.

truckit

812 posts

229 months

Wednesday 9th January 2008
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ATG said:
assumed it must be boocks, but nice to have it confirmed.
Just remember the old saying, NO SMOKE WITHOUT FIRE.

If only Edinburgh City Council are thinking about it, then the petition is worth signing anyway.

It would be the thin edge of the wedge!

stuttgartmetal

8,117 posts

239 months

Wednesday 9th January 2008
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ridiculous.

shadowninja

79,284 posts

305 months

Wednesday 9th January 2008
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A petition. That'll teach them.

truckit

812 posts

229 months

Wednesday 9th January 2008
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shadowninja said:
A petition. That'll teach them.
banghead could always burn a councillor at the stake instead eh!

shadowninja

79,284 posts

305 months

Wednesday 9th January 2008
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Now there's an idea!

Cooper1999

326 posts

222 months

Thursday 10th January 2008
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My cars nine years old! Gulp!

Signed!

puffpuff

22,885 posts

249 months

Thursday 10th January 2008
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truckit said:
shadowninja said:
A petition. That'll teach them.
banghead could always burn a councillor at the stake instead eh!
Seems a bit unfair on councillors like me who drive a car made in 1954.

Jem0911

4,415 posts

224 months

Thursday 10th January 2008
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Done

truckit

812 posts

229 months

Thursday 10th January 2008
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puffpuff said:
truckit said:
shadowninja said:
A petition. That'll teach them.
banghead could always burn a councillor at the stake instead eh!
Seems a bit unfair on councillors like me who drive a car made in 1954.
Nowt personal, unless your the guy at Edinburgh who's trying it on wink

Alfachick

1,639 posts

220 months

Thursday 10th January 2008
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Signed

Balmoral Green

42,554 posts

271 months

Thursday 10th January 2008
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I am very interested to know why people are still signing this, after it has been debunked by no less a body than the FHBVC itself. Also, the Edinburgh proposal was abandoned before it even got to be considered, and what's more, it was several years ago too.

Like the bulk of the petitions on the governments website, it's pure Snopes material.

Remember the story of the boy who cried Wolf? For the sake of the classic car movement, we really must ignore scaremongering boocks like this, and save it for when it really matters, otherwise no-one will pay any attention at all when something genuine comes along.

If you do have to sign it, then don't forget to sign the one protesting about the scrapping of the Red Arrows, and the one petitioning the SA government to free Nelson Mandela whilst you're at it.

puffpuff

22,885 posts

249 months

Friday 11th January 2008
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truckit said:
puffpuff said:
truckit said:
shadowninja said:
A petition. That'll teach them.
banghead could always burn a councillor at the stake instead eh!
Seems a bit unfair on councillors like me who drive a car made in 1954.
Nowt personal, unless your the guy at Edinburgh who's trying it on wink
I'm not - thankfully! (Can I put down this fire extinguisher now...?)

Every five years my classic car club (The Riley Motor Club) commemorates its foundation by driving the original route of the 1925 London to Edinburgh Trial. In 2005 we were welcomed with open arms to Edinburgh and given special permission to park in Parliament Square next to St Giles Cathedral right in the heart of the city - 30+ classic cars, many pre-war and all of them premier division soot-pumpers.

From what I've been able to discover, there is no government proposal to ban older cars. There is a desire to reduce city centre air pollution which, Edinburgh City Council considers, is contributed to by older vehicles not being able to meet recent emission levels requirements. An outright ban them is one option, charging a fee for permission to bring them into the city is another.

Stuttgart (Germany) is pioneering a scheme, Edinburgh is keeping an eye on it - and I suspect other city authorities are too.

Whatever happens, a national ban on all older vehicles is extremely unlikely.

What may happen (my guess) is that emission testing will be tightened up and vehicles of any age that fail will be more robustly dealt with - which doesn't seem too bad an idea, does it?





odyssey2200

18,650 posts

232 months

Friday 11th January 2008
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cymtriks said:
Done.

Come on guys, sign up!
Like they take any notice anyway

This No10 petitions thing is all a load of lipservice to make you think you have a say.

You post your objection and the gov't send you a nice email to tel you that they are going to do what they want regardless.




truckit

812 posts

229 months

Saturday 12th January 2008
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odyssey2200 said:
this No10 petitions thing is all a load of lipservice to make you think you have a say.

You post your objection and the gov't send you a nice email to tel you that they are going to do what they want regardless.
At least we are doing something and they will know what to expect, whatever if ever etc.