Thursday 3rd January 2002

The Key to Theft

Tracker succeeds in recovering another vehicle within hours of being fitted but shouldn't we be looking at a more low-tech answer to foiling theives?

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[campbell]

How about a personat transponder of some sort to allow the driver to open the car and to start it a finger print reconiser on a RED button in he midle of the dash to start the car

Well they nead to do something wit the security of cars, maybe with this tracker system, when the driver reports the car missing and the system is armed it could electrify the thief when he stops at a junction

This would save us all a lot of money in taxs cause thief wont be able to go to jail

Rant over and a HAPPY NEW YEAR TOO ALL

[marki]

a few years ago in the Sussex area , Sussex Police had a car that they used to park around town to trap car thiefs, i think it was left with the keys in the ignition it was rigged so when someone tried to steal it all the doors locked and the said thief had to wait until old Bill turned up , trouble was one of the trapped car thiefs had an ashma attack and i think ended up sueing the police for "entrapment " and all sorts over the stress he had to endure while trapped

[JonRB]

If the thieves' response to increased car security is to car-jack or to burgle your house for the keys, then what will be the response to fingerprint recognition? Will they escort you to your car at knife-point (or gun-point) or simply cut your finger off there and then? What a scary thought.

[campbell]

Bloady foreigners

[JonRB]

quote:Bloady foreigners

Eh?

[marki]

quote:
If the thieves' response to increased car security is to car-jack or to burgle your house for the keys, then what will be the response to fingerprint recognition? Will they escort you to your car at knife-point (or gun-point) or simply cut your finger off there and then? What a scary thought.

I know computer security systems that use bio passwording, as in finger print recogniton are out there that can recogise if the finger is living or not ie Cut off , trouble is do the theves know this .

[apache]

I'd make sure to mention it to them should it happen

[campbell]

I still like the idea of the tracker system activating and electrifing the thief when the car comes to a stop

But if these people are going into our homes to get key for our cars then insurance companies will want safe places to put your car keys in at all time and at the end of the day the car thief will always find a way (bastards )

So what can we do ?

[Jason F]

quote:
I still like the idea of the tracker system activating and electrifing the thief when the car comes to a stop

A la Robocop.. I agree, the only downside is what happens if the car decides U R the thief and frys u ??

I am not fond of this new spate of 'burglary' car thefts. The annoying thing is if someone breaks into my house (past the 10stone dog) and comes into my room I have a Crossbow there, but should I use it and get jailed for assault/murder or let `em take the car ??

What we need to do is have the law lords reassess the 'reasonable' force to allow you to defend yourself in your own home.


Edited by Jason F on Thursday 3rd January 13:18

[jmorgan]

In the news today, a guy dies after being attacked by "suspected car thieves". So if nasty sharp things or big blunt things can be employed in a safe way for the owner then I'am all for it. Harder penalties, not a ban for a year when thieving sod had no license anyway.

[apache]

saw an interesting device from South Africa that, on hitting a button on the dash the doors lock and underbody flamethrowers barbeque any carjackers, it's even endorsed by the cops!

[campbell]

I like it

[McNab]

Having been badly burgled five years ago, I couldn't agree more with Jason.

My wife once saw off an intruder by poking a rifle in his gut (I was out at the time, but anything like that would cost me my Firearm Certificate if it happened today). Pathetic!

[apache]

my uncle used to live in Langton Green in Kent and was burgled 5 times over 2 years....the 5th one killed him with a heart attack, the cops couldn't give a f**k, I get a bit upset when they appear to put revenue earning and misleading road death figures at the top of their priorites

[campbell]

I totaly agree McNab, I too have a firearms license and I woudn't want to lose it for some toser how got into my place but if I caut him or her they would be sorry.

[richb]

Mate of mine sellotaped razor blades across the back of his car-stero so any bastard who tried to tug it out would get a nasty surprise!

[jaydee]

Some little tw@ once spent an enjoyable night in an unheated barn knee deep in cowsh!t after my father caught him trying to break into one of the Landies. Dad'd probably get banged up if he tried that these days !
Very low tech but fairly effective approaches:
1) Get the windows filmed - safer in a crash too. The windows can then survive multiple blows from the outside without breaking
2) Remove the steering wheel (SPAdesign do removable bosses)-ideal if you've got a sporty little number, no good if you've got an airbag though...
3) Buy a hugely expensive 4x4 and leave it in the dodgiest bit of town you can find. The local scrotes will be far to scared to touch it.

[ZZR600]

Theft in dorset is pretty low , only thing that goes missing is red diesel for the tractors and the combine !!

[McNab]

You and I, Campbell, will no doubt lose our Certificates if caught speeding by a spy-camera and prosecuted. We would be judged irresponsible, with inevitable consequences.

Makes you wonder how long it will be before 'exceeding the speed limit' results in people losing their credit cards and credit-rating as well.

Happy New Year to you all the same (if we can manage it) !!