RE: Tories: Re-Phase Traffic Lights To Tackle JamsPoliti
RE: Tories: Re-Phase Traffic Lights To Tackle JamsPoliti
Wednesday 26th March 2008

Tories: Re-Phase Traffic Lights To Tackle Jams

Conservatives want to look at traffic management to battle congestion



The answer to London’s traffic problems could lie in traffic lights, the Conservatives believe.

In an interview with headlineauto Theresa Villiers, Shadow Transport Minister, said that there is not an effective transport policy in the suburbs to provide an alternative for those who want to avoid the Congestion Charge.

She believes that the answer is in traffic management, as well as improving public transport.

'We will have to look closely at traffic management,’ she said.

‘The Ken Livingstone way is to actively try to clog up traffic with no commensurate benefit to the pedestrian or cyclist.

‘To tackle congestion we need to look at traffic light re-phasing and getting rid of traffic lights that actually cause congestion.'

She added: 'It is important to improve public transport, cars will remain a necessity but people will shift if there is a reliable and affordable alternative.”

However Ms Villiers said the Conservatives were not prepared to make any big decisions on fuel duty just yet.

'I can’t make any promises on fuel duty but if we do have to have new green taxes then these would have to be given back in tax cuts elsewhere and not used to fill a gap in the finances.

'We will seek to tackle bottlenecks where finances permit and you will certainly not see us backtrack on widening or by-pass schemes as we have seen with the Labour government.

'We will approach road pricing and congestion charging with considerable caution.'

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king arthur

Original Poster:

7,611 posts

284 months

Wednesday 26th March 2008
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Politician in common sense outburst shock!

hahaha8

104 posts

223 months

Wednesday 26th March 2008
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I'm sure this happens everywhere. Their practically timed for you to travel a few metres to the next traffic light which has already changed giving a very slow and time consuming stop and start cycle. Utterly pointless and for the greenies out there, is a lot more inefficient.

WHYconfused

sniff petrol

13,124 posts

235 months

Wednesday 26th March 2008
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Could they have a look at the lights in Shrewsbury when they come to power? It is impossible to travel from one end to the other without stopping at at least 50% of the lights.

Popee

70 posts

234 months

Wednesday 26th March 2008
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Wow,a bit of common sense? Amazing! Didn't Labour change the traffic light phasing a few years ago, and made it worse?

redgriff500

28,982 posts

286 months

Wednesday 26th March 2008
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One set in Solihull has Reds to ALL ways on for 15 secs.

I reported them as I assumed they were broken...

Oh no its 'traffic calming'

Doesn't calm me down - quite the opposite !

PhantomPH

4,043 posts

248 months

Wednesday 26th March 2008
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A couple of things.

1) This proves how easy it is to be in opposition. Say all the right things to get the voters on your side. Remember that our current Labour government made the same 'common sense' comments about many, many things...which get forgotten as soon as they get in power and realise they need the gazillion quid from taxing people, otherwise the economy would be fked.

2) This is the yet another reason why Golden Brown will not call a general election - he knows Labour are fked as soon as he does. It strikes me that the Conservatives are making more and more sense on many subjects, these days. HOWEVER, I do worry that I am simply buying in to the point made above (1).

Come on Brown - call a general election and let the UK public vote your sackless, stupid collection out.

If a change is as good as a rest, voting out Labour would serve at least one purpose - it would remind politicians that they are expendable.

P~

k595

162 posts

271 months

Wednesday 26th March 2008
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I DON'T BELIEVE IT - common sense at last i've been saying this for years

Lets all hope they get in next time and Boris as well

WELL DONE

( I bet this will not appear anywhere in the left wing national news )

Bunglist

545 posts

253 months

Wednesday 26th March 2008
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PhantomPH said:
A couple of things.

1) This proves how easy it is to be in opposition. Say all the right things to get the voters on your side. Remember that our current Labour government made the same 'common sense' comments about many, many things...which get forgotten as soon as they get in power and realise they need the gazillion quid from taxing people, otherwise the economy would be fked.

2) This is the yet another reason why Golden Brown will not call a general election - he knows Labour are fked as soon as he does. It strikes me that the Conservatives are making more and more sense on many subjects, these days. HOWEVER, I do worry that I am simply buying in to the point made above (1).

Come on Brown - call a general election and let the UK public vote your sackless, stupid collection out.

If a change is as good as a rest, voting out Labour would serve at least one purpose - it would remind politicians that they are expendable.

P~
Due to how badly Gordon and his cronies have acted whilst in power, i think they know that something very bad is on the horizon, which they have caused, and will want to lose the next election anyway, so they can then blame whoever gets in power for the catastrophy.


hirsty27

506 posts

221 months

Wednesday 26th March 2008
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Who cares!...coffee

It's the Tories!bowtie, If they get into power again, they'll only go back to there old ways,-(do you really think they've changed!!) of looking after there own, and to hell with the rest of us!!smokin

Despite this, it's an interesting proposal..yes, and that PcensoredK Gorgon-(spelt correctly!) Brown should listen to the other parties a but more, instead of 'trying' to score points like a petulant child,-("You've been in power over ten years now Gordon, is'nt it about time you started putting your money where your mouth is and started delivering!!"irkedx20)

And stop banging on about "Ten years of independant growth"shoot, and start telling these banks to stop lending so friviously, that's behind this "Ten years of independant growth!", not your 'so called' "safe hands!"wink.


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Edited by hirsty27 on Wednesday 26th March 12:46

AMG Merc

11,955 posts

276 months

Wednesday 26th March 2008
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Isn't there a Dutch town where they removed the lights AND road markings to great effect?! scratchchin

Shandypants

950 posts

217 months

Wednesday 26th March 2008
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They all show common sense when their not in power. As soon they get in power its a different story.

PhantomPH

4,043 posts

248 months

Wednesday 26th March 2008
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hirsty27 said:
If they get into power again, they'll only go back to there old ways,-(do you really think they've changed!!) of looking after there own, and to hell with the rest of us!!
Obvious answer to that - be one of them wink

chrisbr68

5,500 posts

271 months

Wednesday 26th March 2008
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Lies. Sounds good but actions speak louder...

You are right, I dont have any faith

Hammerheadcars

36 posts

219 months

Wednesday 26th March 2008
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At last some common sense!! It is clear to anyone with a brain that the traffic lights that stop you every 500m cause huge pollution when cars pull away again. Also cause drivers to feel pee'd off with all the stop start.
To the politicians: It's not just a London problem though, there are other areas in the UK you know.

Snoggledog

8,990 posts

240 months

Wednesday 26th March 2008
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In the dim mists of time my father was nabbed for speeding in central London. The policeman who pulled him over told him that all the lights were synched so that if you're travelling at 30 mph you'll never need to stop for a light. Strangely enough this was true. Things have changed a bit now.

MK4 Slowride

10,028 posts

231 months

Wednesday 26th March 2008
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Chateau Neuf De pappe, sense & politicians confused

cowellsj

681 posts

222 months

Wednesday 26th March 2008
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IMHO replacing signals with roundabouts is the way forward.
For 90% of the time they work fine and for that other 10% you can put up part time signals to manage the busy times if required.

The current fashion in Bucks seems to be to turn roundabouts into signalised junctions, generally this has not improved the junctions.

kevin ritson

3,423 posts

250 months

Wednesday 26th March 2008
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I'm assuming the lights will be phased so that Dave's Lexus fleet can follow when he jumps a red on his bike

cowellsj

681 posts

222 months

Wednesday 26th March 2008
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Snoggledog said:
In the dim mists of time my father was nabbed for speeding in central London. The policeman who pulled him over told him that all the lights were synched so that if you're travelling at 30 mph you'll never need to stop for a light. Strangely enough this was true. Things have changed a bit now.
This is happening more than you might think.
Sometimes the detection loops prior to a junction are set up to call a red light if someone of detected speeding. I.e. set at 40mph for a 30 limit.

In practice this could be done at most signalised junctions.

corcoran

677 posts

297 months

Wednesday 26th March 2008
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awww bless you all Tory bashing... I'm guessing none of you LIVE in Britain in 2008 which has been royally shafted by Labour?? The world has changed a teeny bit since 'they' were last in power for sure. Unfortunately, the Tories will spend 10-20 years cleaning up after after Labour - during which time we'll ALLL complain about what a rubbish job they do and vote back in Labour... and hey-ho we're stuck here again - but WITH ID Cards and Battery Powered Cars and Spy Cameras on every street corner.

stop tory bashing. Dave jumping the red-lights on his bike is Daily Mail news. not real news.

"looking after themselves and screw everyone else" Have you SEEN the unrivalled growth of companies like Tesco?


ooooooooh inflamatory! Get in!

Edited by corcoran on Wednesday 26th March 12:46