RE: Road Tax Rebellion
Monday 4th August 2008
The Government's bid to raise road tax could be scuppered by rebel MPs who plan to use obscure Parliamentary powers today to stop the move.
They are concerned that drivers who bought cars after 2001 face increases aimed at getting them to buy greener models.
But members of the Environmental Audit Committee will put out a rarely-used "minority report" against the move because they say it a 'new tax on old cars'.
It accuses Gordon Brown and Chancellor Alistair Darling of not thinking through the impact of the £455 charge on struggling motorists.
The rebels, led by Tory MP Graham Stuart, claim the tax is aimed at raising cash for the Treasury.
Road Tax Rebellion
More Bad News For Gordon
They are concerned that drivers who bought cars after 2001 face increases aimed at getting them to buy greener models.
But members of the Environmental Audit Committee will put out a rarely-used "minority report" against the move because they say it a 'new tax on old cars'.
It accuses Gordon Brown and Chancellor Alistair Darling of not thinking through the impact of the £455 charge on struggling motorists.
The rebels, led by Tory MP Graham Stuart, claim the tax is aimed at raising cash for the Treasury.
Discussion
Didn't there report also conclude that the amount of extra taxation was not enought to put people off buying bigger cars.
This is still all spin. They have no intention of back dating the car tax. Just as long as they can tax new cars. It's a softner that's all
Yet again the government will have pushed in a stealth tax.
This is still all spin. They have no intention of back dating the car tax. Just as long as they can tax new cars. It's a softner that's all
Yet again the government will have pushed in a stealth tax.
I was wondering the other day what would happen if instead of income tax, VAT, fuel duty, tax on saving on investments, on probate etc etc...
It was all bundled into "income tax" I think you'd probably see about 2k of every 10k you eared... That's a serious amount of money, WHERE does it go?!
It was all bundled into "income tax" I think you'd probably see about 2k of every 10k you eared... That's a serious amount of money, WHERE does it go?!
DaveL485 said:
Go for it, I applaud any attempt to bring tax down, even though it doesnt apply to my older cars.
Read the post above yours. No taxes will come down. Tax will meerly be raised for a lower number of people immediately. In years to come, that minority of people will be all of us as supplies of older cars dry up.
t, Sherlock!Brown and Darling are an absolute disgrace. I read that they received less votes than the SNP in a recent Glasgow election, if thats true, we shouldnt need to worry too much about these cretins getting re-elected down here - the only question is how long it will take to repair all the damage they have done, and of course whether or not the Tories are up to the job..? Dark days.
To me, it makes no sense to retrospectively raise the tax on onder cars. They are already "in the system", so unless they are old or knackered enough to be scrapped, this hike in road tax is simply that - a TAX.
I completely agree that taxes can be used to shape new car ownership, much in the same way as it has shaped the choice of company cars for many in recent years, but the government must think that we are stupid to accept the current scheme as anything other than a money grabbing scheme.
Rant over, back to work....
I completely agree that taxes can be used to shape new car ownership, much in the same way as it has shaped the choice of company cars for many in recent years, but the government must think that we are stupid to accept the current scheme as anything other than a money grabbing scheme.
Rant over, back to work....
Dazmonsta said:
To me, it makes no sense to retrospectively raise the tax on onder cars. They are already "in the system", so unless they are old or knackered enough to be scrapped, this hike in road tax is simply that - a TAX.
I completely agree that taxes can be used to shape new car ownership, much in the same way as it has shaped the choice of company cars for many in recent years, but the government must think that we are stupid to accept the current scheme as anything other than a money grabbing scheme.
Rant over, back to work....
+1I completely agree that taxes can be used to shape new car ownership, much in the same way as it has shaped the choice of company cars for many in recent years, but the government must think that we are stupid to accept the current scheme as anything other than a money grabbing scheme.
Rant over, back to work....
you should run for PM..
[quote]The rebels, led by Tory MP Graham Stuart, claim the tax is aimed at raising cash for the Treasury.
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Yes no surprise of course. EVERY "TAX" THEY PROPOSE FOR ANY PURPOSE IS TO RAISE CASH FOR THE TREASURY !
The idea that has been suggested of another "windfall tax" on Oil Co's profits is the same.
The fact that Gordon Blown's lot dress it up as "to help the consumer" is blatant garbage.
p.s. ..and will somebody PLEASE explain to me exactly how increasing taxes actually does anything to reduce pollution/congestion or any other green bandwagon that we keep getting "sold" by HM Govt.??
They are merely FINES Gordon-we can see through your thinly veiled money raising schemes.
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Yes no surprise of course. EVERY "TAX" THEY PROPOSE FOR ANY PURPOSE IS TO RAISE CASH FOR THE TREASURY !
The idea that has been suggested of another "windfall tax" on Oil Co's profits is the same.
The fact that Gordon Blown's lot dress it up as "to help the consumer" is blatant garbage.
p.s. ..and will somebody PLEASE explain to me exactly how increasing taxes actually does anything to reduce pollution/congestion or any other green bandwagon that we keep getting "sold" by HM Govt.??
They are merely FINES Gordon-we can see through your thinly veiled money raising schemes.
Edited by sprinter885 on Monday 4th August 13:32
This has got absolutely nowt to do with the CO2 emissions and being green, thats the front they are using as an excuse just to get more money from us!
Is paying more road tax going to lower the CO2 emissions of my car? Maybe they should triple road tax and it might go into negative CO2 emissions if thats the case!? I dont think so! Thought road tax was to help maintain our roads.. hmmm!
The government dont actually solve problems, they just tax problems - On a slightly different note, caravans make cars less efficient, why are they not taxed?
Is paying more road tax going to lower the CO2 emissions of my car? Maybe they should triple road tax and it might go into negative CO2 emissions if thats the case!? I dont think so! Thought road tax was to help maintain our roads.. hmmm!
The government dont actually solve problems, they just tax problems - On a slightly different note, caravans make cars less efficient, why are they not taxed?
Labour have only ever got one answer for any problem......tax/charge us more....do they have whole departments dedicated to inventing new taxes....??
I think people would more readily accept so-called "green taxes" if the money went to developing alternative,cleaner or renewable sources of energy....but it goes straight to propping up the NHS.
Guy Fawkes had the right idea.....
I think people would more readily accept so-called "green taxes" if the money went to developing alternative,cleaner or renewable sources of energy....but it goes straight to propping up the NHS.
Guy Fawkes had the right idea.....
Edited by huge on Monday 4th August 13:40
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