RE: RAC Foundation: Scrap Cars Older Than 18 Years
RE: RAC Foundation: Scrap Cars Older Than 18 Years
Friday 17th October 2008

RAC Foundation: Scrap Cars Older Than 18 Years

Motoring group believes scrapping old cars is green solution


The future for classics?
The future for classics?
The RAC Foundation has released a report calling for 18 year old cars to be scrapped and replaced with newer, more fuel efficient models. The report, ‘Car Ownership in Great Britain’, recommends a mass cull of 17-18 year old cars with a financial pay off to encourage owners to buy newer, more efficient cars.

Rejecting the Government’s idea of higher taxes or more regular inspections on older, thirstier cars, the RAC Foundation has recognised that the majority of ‘older car’ owners are on a low income – so taxing them out of their cars would be unfair. The Foundation believes that a well implemented scheme will benefit the used and new car industries, while also keeping roads ‘greener’.

RAC Foundation Director Stephen Glaister said: ‘Making it affordable for motorists to scrap clapped-out cars and opt instead for a cleaner, more fuel-efficient and more reliable vehicle could be a way for the Government to support greener motoring. This is an essential ingredient of a proper "dust-to-dust" emissions assessment.’

In layman’s terms – scrap your old car for more money than it’s worth and get a greener one, thereby saving the world one rust bucket at a time.

Glaister added: ‘Motorists can't afford to be on the receiving end of another muddled, poorly thought out scheme like the VED proposals unveiled in March. Any scrappage scheme should be further researched before implementation in order to benefit the environment, motorists and manufacturers, without distorting the market.’

The report also found that when a car is sold or scrapped it is usually replaced with one a few years younger. This, they say, should be the thing to give the new and used markets a boost, as there will be almost constant change over.

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Matthew_Eames

Original Poster:

1,052 posts

226 months

Friday 17th October 2008
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so getting a car that is a few years younger and does perhaps +5mpg or so is better than keeping an old one on the road!

have they never heard about lifetime emissions, why scrap a perfectly good car when it reaches 18 years old, if it's lasted that long it's likely to have been looked after anyway, all the nails usually die before that

I certainly do not see an excess of old bangers on the roads anyway

varsas

4,071 posts

224 months

Friday 17th October 2008
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And where is the money to pay for this going to come from? Tax on petrol i expect. Also they had better not force this; my XJ-S and Stag fall into this, despite the fact they produce very few emissions (they do very few miles) and surely creating a new car for me will be more harmful?

rikky

36 posts

216 months

Friday 17th October 2008
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they had better bring an army to get my '69 charger then!

Bunglist

545 posts

252 months

Friday 17th October 2008
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Who is going to pay for this????????????????????????

Who comes up with these Fcensoreded up ideas.

They need to stop hammering the driver, we all pay far to much already, and sod all of it gets spent on the roads.

drewcole81

342 posts

228 months

Friday 17th October 2008
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Come anywhere near anywhere near any of my cars and they'll get the kicking of there lives!

Droptheclutch

2,621 posts

247 months

Friday 17th October 2008
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"Glaister added: ‘Motorists can't afford to be on the receiving end of another muddled, poorly thought out scheme..."

Like this one, Mr Glaister?

What an utter pillock.

Essex Exile

390 posts

215 months

Friday 17th October 2008
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I agree wholeheartedly!
Those Ferrari 250 GTO things are nearly fifty years old, can you imagine the damage they've done to the ozone layer in that time?
Crush 'em immediately!!

NURSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

carl_w

10,360 posts

280 months

Friday 17th October 2008
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Where's Welshbeef?

Gatso Hater

49 posts

210 months

Friday 17th October 2008
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What a utter load of crap these people need there heads testing and found a nice padded cell to spend there time in!!!

hugoagogo

23,421 posts

255 months

Friday 17th October 2008
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RAC in the pocket of motor manufacturers then? wkers

Phil Dicky

7,193 posts

285 months

Friday 17th October 2008
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wondor if they will offer Chris Evans more than his latest purchase is worth biggrin

Ponk

1,382 posts

214 months

Friday 17th October 2008
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Right, better start saving, in roughly 8 years time i'll go abroad and take my car with me! *Runs off to google house prices near the Ring*

robert_raw

81 posts

214 months

Friday 17th October 2008
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I suppose it does make some sense though, some people only have clapped out old cars cause they can't afford newer ones and as normal the governments hair brained schemes of raising taxes would only affect poor people that can't afford newer cars (and at that point, would be unable to afford an older car)

I do think money for scrapping old cars is a really good idea. Generally, people with classic cars tend to have a little more money than the people this report is aimed at, so it wouldn't necessarily affect them people (Unless they made is mandatory, of course.)

Turbobanana

7,793 posts

223 months

Friday 17th October 2008
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‘Making it affordable for motorists to scrap clapped-out cars and opt instead for a cleaner, more fuel-efficient and more reliable vehicle could be a way for the Government to support greener motoring. This is an essential ingredient of a proper "dust-to-dust" emissions assessment.’

Rather a shortsighted view to assume all 17-18 year old cars are "clapped-out", don't you think?

Nostrils

103 posts

249 months

Friday 17th October 2008
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I wont be scrapping my 1990 BMW M3 thank you very much! Dont care if it now 18 years old. Passed all its MOT's without question since new, only driven at the weekends, on nice days out and drive about 5000miles a year

dpbird90

5,535 posts

212 months

Friday 17th October 2008
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What a bad idea. It has already been proven that including pollution during manufacture, a Prius does more environmental damage than a 4.4 litre Discovery, so why build any more of these heaps of crap that go everywhere at 9mph? So they want to scrap all classics? Including bilions of pounds worth of highly rare Ferrari's, Maserati's etc? Whoever came up with that idea needs shooting

tom g

1,046 posts

217 months

Friday 17th October 2008
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"RAC Foundation - the independent body established to take on the role of protecting the interest of the motorist"

hehe

Why thank you oh wise foundation for coming up with such an amazingly good idea.

MrMoonyMan

2,617 posts

233 months

Friday 17th October 2008
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What the fk kind of piss poor stupid st eating mother fker came up with this wk excuse for a fking news bulletin?
How the fk will getting rid of old cars that have paid off their production costs to the fking envir-fking-ment do any good?
What a load of fking ste gets spewed out by these fking companies? - the fking R A C in fking deed? Buncha small dicked overweight cocksucking halatosis blessed cocknoses. GAAAH.
This sort of pisspoor non productive st is just wk.

shoot

anonymous-user

76 months

Friday 17th October 2008
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That's a completely ridiculous idea. If anything, keeping a car for the long term is surely better for the environment than buying a new one every couple of years?

Don't forget that despite what the industry want you to believe, each new car thats made adds tons & tons of carbon to the atmosphere during its component manufacture, assembly & distribution.

That's not to mention the many environmentally damaging materials still used in production processes, and the freighting and transportation of all those thousands of components needed for each new car, most of which are made in the far east, no doubt in pollution pumping factories that don't adhere to the stricter environmental standards we have here in the west.

CMS

35 posts

220 months

Friday 17th October 2008
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What utter nonsense.

Most cars of 18 years and older, that are still in use, are either cherished classics (that do hardly any miles comparitively) or bloody good workhorses that have been pretty well looked after.

Seriously, this is a complete non-issue. How many cars over 10 years old, let alone 18 years old, did you see on your way into work this morning?

Not like we're exactly tripping over them is it?

All aboard the CO2 gravy train...