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Have you people discussed this thing to death and I've missed it it?
Am I the only one that thinks its a worthwhile brave attempt at being fresh that fails? That for all its solid, taut, confident curves, its a mess of ill conceived proportion?
new, fresh and brave is one thing, new, fresh, brave and ugly is quite another.....
Am I the only one that thinks its a worthwhile brave attempt at being fresh that fails? That for all its solid, taut, confident curves, its a mess of ill conceived proportion?
new, fresh and brave is one thing, new, fresh, brave and ugly is quite another.....
First one I saw was a dark blue left hooker on German plates that we had in for a first drive. It looked under tyred for starters, and reminiscent (depending on which angle you looked at it) of Saab 95, Peugeot 406 and New Accord. Not good.
We've since had a silver 530d in running on 18" wheels and it looks a *lot* better. Still think the car is a bit of a munter though. The point about a BMW, IMHO, is that you shouldn't have to spend time thinking about wether it looks good. They've just always looked so instantly right in the past, and this doesn't.
>> Edited by stuart_forrest on Sunday 5th October 10:13
We've since had a silver 530d in running on 18" wheels and it looks a *lot* better. Still think the car is a bit of a munter though. The point about a BMW, IMHO, is that you shouldn't have to spend time thinking about wether it looks good. They've just always looked so instantly right in the past, and this doesn't.
>> Edited by stuart_forrest on Sunday 5th October 10:13
Seeing one in my rear view with it's sidelights on yesterday, I couldn't help thinking it looked like a pumpkin lantern.
Have a look next time you see one - the whole light unit glows and makes it look like a halloween lantern.
The twin round headlights are a BMW feature, now they could belong to any manufacturer.
Have a look next time you see one - the whole light unit glows and makes it look like a halloween lantern.
The twin round headlights are a BMW feature, now they could belong to any manufacturer.
I have only had fleeting glimp`s of the new 5 so far , at first i could not make out what it was which is not good for brand recognition , im not a fan so far from what i have seen .
But then i really did not like the new 7 to begin with
but i have come to quite like the 7
ok its not as sleek as the old one but its, well i kind of like it ,,,sorry
But then i really did not like the new 7 to begin with
but i have come to quite like the 7
ok its not as sleek as the old one but its, well i kind of like it ,,,sorry

bermuda said:
Get the Cadillac CTS V, save yourself some coin and show your friends that there are alternatives to M5's!
This has to be a wind up. There really is no comparison...
IMHO Mr Bangle has constantly surprised me, the 7, Z4 and now the 5 are all great looking cars, they are different, but that is both good and refreshing. Hats off to him, that complex a surfacing takes some serious skill and manufacture no british maker currently could hope to match.
The "it's not normal I don't like it" stuff about it is rather sad. I say he did a great Job.
There's a guy near me with one. I kinda like it. He's got a 530d with 18s in a darkish blue colour. It is a style that does grow on me and i think this is BMWs plans. Make a car that gets lots of press for its different looks, but is popular in the long run as people come more attracted to it. Certainly works with the 7 series which i really really like now. Will depreciate too so ill pick one up in a few years for 20k for the 745. 

Bangle's cars take a while to sink in...but when they do they look wonderful....problem is that UK are so conservative (witness 60% of cars are silver)-CLONES and SHEEP thats all we are.
The new 5 looks fabulous with large wheels and dark colours. The 7 looks wonderfully menacing and the Z4 looks like its in motion even when stood still.
At last BMW has realised that making default (read easily understandable and obviously pretty) cars will damage their reputation. The thought of people buying a BMW because THEY like it (and not their neighbour) is great and may rid BMW of its "cut and thrust but sheep like" image. I can no longer imagine the bloke from the "Office" chosing a BMW as an obvious choice to show off his importance in some boring office
The new 5 looks fabulous with large wheels and dark colours. The 7 looks wonderfully menacing and the Z4 looks like its in motion even when stood still.
At last BMW has realised that making default (read easily understandable and obviously pretty) cars will damage their reputation. The thought of people buying a BMW because THEY like it (and not their neighbour) is great and may rid BMW of its "cut and thrust but sheep like" image. I can no longer imagine the bloke from the "Office" chosing a BMW as an obvious choice to show off his importance in some boring office
I didn't like the Z4 in photos and I despised it in the metal. However, even though I despised the 5 series in photos, I saw one the other night and thought it looked better on the road. Wouldn't rush out and buy one, wouldn't put it in a museum of modern art but then I didn't like the old one either.
I didn't like the look of the old one either, and I have one (tourer)... in std spec, it's a SERIOUSLY decent ride. Honest, if you haven't driven one, it's as relaxed a cruise as you'll ever need (forget the sports suspension, that's for sports cars). Great chassis, lots of toys and plenty of torque in all models. It's a motorway eater.
It is however - a barge. But as barges go, not too ugly.
New one looks even more ugly to me, but as has been mentioned, a lot better in dark colours (IMHO).
I have an order in for the new tourer (2005) - if it's as good as this one to drive (and still does 45 mpg), beemer will get my cash...
... and I'll not be let in at junctions for another 5 years
It is however - a barge. But as barges go, not too ugly.
New one looks even more ugly to me, but as has been mentioned, a lot better in dark colours (IMHO).
I have an order in for the new tourer (2005) - if it's as good as this one to drive (and still does 45 mpg), beemer will get my cash...
... and I'll not be let in at junctions for another 5 years
I hope the TVR lot don't shoot me for this, but I like BMW's ((runsandhides)). I like the old 5 series with the cool circular headlights. Menacing. Especially the M5. Subzero cool it is. However, the new one looks like it's suffering from a nasty hangover and is trying to open its' eyes. What on earth is an American doing trying to design/style a German car? I mean, we all know what the American cars look like
Let's just hope they don't start handling like them
All IMHO of course 
Let's just hope they don't start handling like them
All IMHO of course 
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