Friday 13th February 2009

Large VW Saloon Unveiled

Sketch released showing 2011 super-saloon

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A rather old school-looking sketch of a new mid-size VW saloon has apparently been released by the carmaker’s North American arm. The car is said to be larger than the Passat and is far more squared-off and angular than the CC.

It is understood that the car, codenamed NMS, will be manufactured at the company’s first US production facility in more than 20 years, located in Chattanooga, Tennessee. It shares some of its design with VW’s latest concept car, the BlueSport Roadster.

The firm says the car will be very spacious and is expected to gain the latest Fuel-Stratified Injection (FSI) petrol and TDI diesel engine units, mated to a dual-clutch transmission.

Production of the NMS is expected to begin in Chattanooga in early 2011. However it is likely the car is US-only and will not make it to the UK.

[Benten]

Looks a bit Cadillac Concept to me. Is it the Cien? first car you get on Gran Turismo 4.

[wrightman90]

Looks the dogs bks but wont sell if its priced like the Phaeton

[collateral]

Liking the low side windows

[AndyCowman]

Looks like the new challenger to me... to be expected if its to be released only in the US. I like it!

[Hitch78]

How many Phaetons did they sell? That's right, nine. And surely those nine sales just came at cost of nine A6s and A8s.

Will they never learn? I'm guessing this is on a new/improved platform so will inform the new A6 and A8 too. Might be interesting if we see a Porker badge on it though, a mid to large saloon below the Panamera might fill the revenue gap that falling US Cayenne sales will leave.

[nekrum]

looks like an a8 to me before the facelift?!..

[Pigfarmer3]

Definately got the modern day concept american muscle-car look, just without the flared nostrils, massive arches, etc. Meaning the yanks probably won't buy it, especially with Obama giving the old 'Buy American' speach again!

[EDLT]

To miss-quote Clarkson:

"If the real car looks anything like that I'll eat my hair."

[gumsie]

Hitch78 said:

How many Phaetons did they sell? That's right, nine. And surely those nine sales just came at cost of nine A6s and A8s.

Will they never learn? I'm guessing this is on a new/improved platform so will inform the new A6 and A8 too. Might be interesting if we see a Porker badge on it though, a mid to large saloon below the Panamera might fill the revenue gap that falling US Cayenne sales will leave.

Nine?

[Morningside]

Now that IS stylish..But we all know pre and post production are two different worlds (Sadly).

[infradig]

Could this be slightly modified Chrysler 300 or similar joint venture,remember VW sell a rebadged Grand Voyager in The Land of The Fat. If it's only to be sold over there it obviously won't need to be as well engineered(or priced) as the Phaeton.

[Steve_M]

This is probably going to be based on the Panamera. Porsche will probably use it as R&D for the Panamera Gen2 cars and perfect it for use with a TDI.

[pistonlager]

Steve_M said:

This is probably going to be based on the Panamera. Porsche will probably use it as R&D for the Panamera Gen2 cars and perfect it for use with a TDI.

I agree.

[annodomini2]

Hyundai sonata with a vw badge

[Dibby]

VW have drawn a new car - that's not news!

[hugoagogo]

mid-size = bigger than a passat

in america, yes
in the real world, no

[bobthemonkey]

NMS isn't a big, posh car like the Phaeton

Its designed to slot between the Jetta and Passat in the lineup (large but cheap) and is based on a mashup of VW platforms, with the Mk4 Golf (torsion bar) rear. Its meant to be a cheap, but more American offering. It should be priced against stuff like the Camry, but have the same emotional affect as the 300C.

Edited by bobthemonkey on Friday 13th February 13:36

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Hitch78 said:

How many Phaetons did they sell? That's right, nine. And surely those nine sales just came at cost of nine A6s and A8s.

Will they never learn? I'm guessing this is on a new/improved platform so will inform the new A6 and A8 too. Might be interesting if we see a Porker badge on it though, a mid to large saloon below the Panamera might fill the revenue gap that falling US Cayenne sales will leave.

I agree...how many more sale failures do they want,thet should stick to making great small fast cars!

[remoh]

Hitch78 said:

How many Phaetons did they sell? That's right, nine. And surely those nine sales just came at cost of nine A6s and A8s.

Will they never learn? I'm guessing this is on a new/improved platform so will inform the new A6 and A8 too. Might be interesting if we see a Porker badge on it though, a mid to large saloon below the Panamera might fill the revenue gap that falling US Cayenne sales will leave.

I think your phaetom sales figure is wrong, where did you get that info?

I've seen a fair few on the vw used site which indicate a good used buy for some people...

Check your figures again maybe.....

[Swoxy]

That's reminiscent of the lovely Nissan Gloria ...

Edited by Swoxy on Saturday 14th February 20:13