Goodwood XKR - Limited Edition
Goodwood XKR - Limited Edition
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skywalker11

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FNG

4,609 posts

246 months

Monday 6th July 2009
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If you can't find anything to say about this, why do you think anyone else will?

skywalker11

Original Poster:

136 posts

201 months

Monday 6th July 2009
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FNG said:
If you can't find anything to say about this, why do you think anyone else will?
Well FNG, I think the concept is a great idea but the colour leaves something to be desired! Now post something useful..

cardigankid

8,861 posts

234 months

Monday 6th July 2009
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I like the colour, a lot, but this is not the first time they have done a special in pale lime green - they did something similar shortly after the XK was launched.

It totally high time Jaguar did a hard core version of a car that could clearly stand it and not merely an 'options list' limited edition.

FNG

4,609 posts

246 months

Monday 6th July 2009
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My post was useful. It got you to say what your opinion was, which is the point of forums. Although I see you haven't learned yet that an arrogant and commandeering posting style isn't very welcome.


As for the car, I don't think bright lairy colours suit Jaguars, and that this is proof.

I hope they finally bite the bullet and make the stripped-out 2-seater that's been talked about on-and-off for the last few years.

skywalker11

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136 posts

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Tuesday 7th July 2009
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FNG said:
I don't think bright lairy colours suit Jaguars, and that this is proof.

I hope they finally bite the bullet and make the stripped-out 2-seater that's been talked about on-and-off for the last few years.
The XKRS should have been excactly that in my opinion, stripped out with a cage and buckets etc. GT3 eat your heart out!

Tahiti

991 posts

269 months

Tuesday 7th July 2009
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New XKR is a great car IMHO but I'm not keen on the slime green colour or odd looking 19s on this one.

FNG

4,609 posts

246 months

Tuesday 7th July 2009
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skywalker11 said:
The XKRS should have been excactly that in my opinion, stripped out with a cage and buckets etc. GT3 eat your heart out!
Certain engineers at Jaguar have long maintained that this car should be built.

I believe there are stumbling blocks in three areas:

- marketing say it won't sell, but then marketing are useless at predicting niche market takeup and always have been

- a very influential member of the senior management development / drive team defines what is jaguar-ness and what isn't, and this apparently isn't

- it would inevitably be compared directly to a GT3 and management are petrified of coming up short in a head-to-head, so better not to make the car and therefore avoid the comparison

Or certainly this was my understanding of matters a couple of years ago, I'm not as in touch as I used to be. Hopefully this car was a toe in the water to determine what the market demand for it is today.

Incidentally, apparently the colour is closer to a really bright green (as on Kawasakis) but comes out poorly in pics. I'm not convinced - anyone see it at Goodwood in the flesh?

Regardless, Jaguars don't suit bright solid colours IMO.

skywalker11

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Tuesday 7th July 2009
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Do you work at Jag?

FNG

4,609 posts

246 months

Tuesday 7th July 2009
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Not any more.

skywalker11

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Tuesday 7th July 2009
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Good Stuff, In which area?

FNG

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246 months

Tuesday 7th July 2009
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Engineering --> Product Development --> Vehicle Engineering, various jobs over a few years.

Not living in Warwickshire any more so I won't be back to Jag /LandRover for the forseeable.

skywalker11

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201 months

Tuesday 7th July 2009
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Nice!

I'm in body but aiming towards dymanics/integrity. Very difficult to get anywhere though at the minute frown

FNG

4,609 posts

246 months

Tuesday 7th July 2009
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I always found it next to impossible to move anywhere I wanted to go, short of leaving and taking a new job or filling dead mens' shoes. Promotion has only ever been achieved by going elsewhere.

It took me 4 years of doing pretty dire or barely half-decent jobs to land myself a plum role, which was vehicle integration engineer. And then they had to get shot of me when the third round of cutbacks arrived...

I did see a vacancy for a chassis and dynamics analysis role somewhere online recently, they've been trying to fill it for ages, Bedfordshire I think. I don't have the software knowledge or I'd be after it myself. Worth a look, or are you committed to staying with JLR?

skywalker11

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Tuesday 7th July 2009
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Well, would prefrebly stay at JLR as I am an 07 Grad intake and have no experience elsewhere. Mike Cross and Pete Davis even told me I would be welcome but the situation means that my current team would have nobody to do my current role so I cannot move.

Podie

46,647 posts

297 months

Tuesday 7th July 2009
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skywalker11 said:
Well, would prefrebly stay at JLR as I am an 07 Grad intake and have no experience elsewhere. Mike Cross and Pete Davis even told me I would be welcome but the situation means that my current team would have nobody to do my current role so I cannot move.
Ah, that old line...

ex-FMC wink

FNG

4,609 posts

246 months

Tuesday 7th July 2009
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You've heard that one too? I got it in 1998 and 1999 (twice) and 2000 and then a friend of mine went on the LL6 "negotiating with employees" course and it all became very very clear...

...then I left Ford to take a promotion.

Podie

46,647 posts

297 months

Tuesday 7th July 2009
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FNG said:
...then I left Ford to take a promotion.
hehe

I left the auto industry as it looked like it was falling apart around itself.

skywalker11

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136 posts

201 months

Tuesday 7th July 2009
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Yeah but with no other experience anywhere else I'm stuck! I have a masters in Mech Eng but only 2 years here.

FNG

4,609 posts

246 months

Tuesday 7th July 2009
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Podie said:
I left the auto industry as it looked like it was falling apart around itself.
I'm trying to do exactly the same, for the same reasons, except when I'm surfing on here. D'oh.

skywalker11 said:
Yeah but with no other experience anywhere else I'm stuck! I have a masters in Mech Eng but only 2 years here.
Sorry but a masters doesn't mean a huge amount in the auto industry cos it's practically ticket-to-entry these days. Everyone coming through the graduate scheme has similar qualifications and high expectations, and not everyone is going to move up the ladder. Similarly not everyone can get into the job they want. Some put up with the security and pension and accept their lot, others make their way up the greasy pole by playing the system, and others leave.

After 2 years you haven't got masses of experience to tie you down to a certain type of job or technology or specialism, but you also don't have a depth of experience and knowledge to make yourself attractive as a shoe-in for another employer.

Look at consultancy positions for graduates with 1-3 years' experience if you want a varied and challenging role and to develop a CV that lets you move around industries. It's the right time for you to get into that if you're interested, especially if you've been mentored through to Chartered status: consultancies like that a lot.

Or stick with it at JLR but accept that a) you might not get as far as you want to, and b) you might be a body engineer for the forseeable.

The job market is really tough - worst I've known by some margin - so whatever you do, think about job security above all else.