RE: Dodge Magnum RT
Tuesday 6th January 2004

Dodge Magnum RT

Our Favourite Estate Car



If you have to own an Estate car, the choice for the dedicated petrolhead is limited. On the budget side you could lay your hands on the nippy but bland looking Subaru Legacy, a Mundano of some description or if you want V8 power then your into BMW, Audi, Merc territory. Where are the mid range estate cars with grunt? Conspicuous by their absence.

Dodge may have the answer though. The new Magnum RT hits the streets soom powered by a 340 horsepower, 390 foot-pound HEMI V-8 engine mated to an electronically controlled five-speed automatic transmission (with 'AutoStick').  It comes complete with 18-inch polished aluminum wheels, dual exhaust, large disc brakes, leather seats and a monster sound system.

Price to our American cousins is $29,370. Yep, that's £16,171! The price of a 1.8 litre Vectra...

The Dodge Magnum is built a factory in Canada before being shipped to the USA.

So, with DaimlerChrysler announcing that the Dodge brand is to return to the UK, can we expect bargain priced V8 muscle at last? No, thought not.

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dinkel

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27,584 posts

279 months

Tuesday 6th January 2004
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Low Dollar: reason to review so much nice price US cars ?

This one is pretty and compared to the Vectra something to consider if you have gasmoney.

DustyC

12,820 posts

275 months

Tuesday 6th January 2004
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What about Commodore V8 Station Wagons.
They are available and make a nice sound too

DustyC

12,820 posts

275 months

Tuesday 6th January 2004
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HSV do a Special estate version too. I for get the name now but its a stately but yet sporty looking thing. It sounds fantastic too.

Its not the statesman, thats the model bigger than the commodore.
I'll have a quick nose around...

DustyC

12,820 posts

275 months

Tuesday 6th January 2004
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I cant find it on the HSV site but the newer crossroad version is called the Avalance. It has the Corvette V8 in it like the others too.
www.hsv.com.au/cars/vy2/default.htm

anonymous-user

75 months

Tuesday 6th January 2004
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Well, GM are talking about entering into the twin cab market in this country due to the company car tax loophole. The only ones they have that're already right hand drive are the Holden ones. And I'm sure I've seen HSV have a play with one of their pick ups before.

If Vauxhall starts selling Monaros and possibly Utes or whatever, depending on sales we might get more of the aussie range.

graham

16,378 posts

305 months

Tuesday 6th January 2004
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what about the home grown mg ZT-T 260 thats an estate with rwd a v8 and 260bhp ? 30k though

Marki

15,763 posts

291 months

Tuesday 6th January 2004
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graham said:
what about the home grown mg ZT-T 260 thats an estate with rwd a v8 and 260bhp ? 30k though


You can bet your ass on the fact that $29k will end up at Pounds Sterling 29k by the time it arrives in Europe

Apache

39,731 posts

305 months

Tuesday 6th January 2004
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Yup, infuriating aint it. Hows about importing yourself?

Stig

11,823 posts

305 months

Tuesday 6th January 2004
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It looks like a Cerbera Shooting Brake

LuS1fer

43,113 posts

266 months

Tuesday 6th January 2004
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For the last time, American cars are not gas guzzlers!

danmangt40

296 posts

305 months

Tuesday 6th January 2004
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true, lusifer, but anything with a 5.7 liter v8 is compared to a 1.8 liter anything...

z064life

1,926 posts

269 months

Tuesday 6th January 2004
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danmangt40 said:
true, lusifer, but anything with a 5.7 liter v8 is compared to a 1.8 liter anything...


Why would people (even if it isn't you danmangt40 comparing the 2 engine displacment sizes) compare such 2 engines? A 1.8l and 5.7l engine are likely to be in two diffferent cars in different markets, designed for different things (the closest to common ground being an Elise 1.8l and the Vette 5.7l). If GM get such good economy from a 5.7l engine in a car like a Vette which is built at such a bargain price, able to do everything pretty well, built with some compromise, and its performance being the high priority, and not economy, which is supposed to be big on gas guzzling, then their economy cars must be very good on MPG - lol.

LuS1fer

43,113 posts

266 months

Tuesday 6th January 2004
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Trouble is, with such great cars to choose from, I'm quite happy to keep filling up the tank.

Z06, CTS-V, Mustang Cobra, Magnum RT...stop it, you're killing me.

z064life

1,926 posts

269 months

Wednesday 7th January 2004
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LuS1fer said:
Trouble is, with such great cars to choose from, I'm quite happy to keep filling up the tank.

Z06, CTS-V, Mustang Cobra, Magnum RT...stop it, you're killing me.



Not forgetting that the Z06 is more economical than its European counterparts - I don't see anyone saying that the European supercars are not economical, which is the truth. I suppose it's all to do with perceptions.

Apparently, Dodge is making a Charger again. There's a concept, it looks nice (modern, with a hint of muscle car styling), but has 4 doors, however. And there's the Ford GT, and lets not forget that Ferrari and Porsche are playing catchup to that car.

>> Edited by z064life on Wednesday 7th January 12:33

LuS1fer

43,113 posts

266 months

Wednesday 7th January 2004
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graham said:
what about the home grown mg ZT-T 260 thats an estate with rwd a v8 and 260bhp ? 30k though


Not very fast though. A 340bhp hemi seems rather more appealing than the 4.6 Mustang unit.

jvaughan

6,025 posts

304 months

Wednesday 7th January 2004
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danmangt40 said:
true, lusifer, but anything with a 5.7 liter v8 is compared to a 1.8 liter anything...


Litre ... not Liter ....

Parrett

1 posts

266 months

Wednesday 7th January 2004
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Two more V8 estates are the Passat and Audi A8, both with a 3.6-liter and yet 20 to 30 percent pricier in the US than the new Dodge . . .

dinkel

Original Poster:

27,584 posts

279 months

Thursday 8th January 2004
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danmangt40 said:
For the last time, American cars are not gas guzzlers!
True, lusifer, but anything with a 5.7 liter v8 is compared to a 1.8 liter anything...


So give us some figures to talk about, mr Neon

LuS1fer

43,113 posts

266 months

Friday 9th January 2004
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1987 Camaro Z28 4 barrel carb 5.0 - 19mpg through morning traffic run to work and around 28-30mpg on a run. More achievable if you drive smoothly and slowly (thus defeating the object unless you just want to cruise)

1998 Camaro Z28 fuel injected 5.7 - never actually measured it as I lost my anorak but it's better than the 5.0 round town and as good on a run.

As with ANY high performance car, if you used full throttle 100% of the time (impossible), you'd get far worse consumption. But remember Clarkson's test of the Range Rover where he got 9mpg? A friend of a friend has a DB7 and her "round town" figure is also 9mpg.

American car manufacturers get slapped with penalties if their cars don't conform to certain pollution standards so their computers are incredible at extracting amazing economy and incredible performance at the same time. MOT emissions are a breeze, way, way below what's permitted.

dinkel

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27,584 posts

279 months

Monday 12th January 2004
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LuS1fer said:
1987 Camaro Z28 4 barrel carb 5.0 - 19mpg through morning traffic run to work and around 28-30mpg on a run.


Kindin' me?
I mean figures from standard testing. SAE / DIN kinda stuff . . . Or magazine reviews like:
http://auto.consumerguide.com/auto/new/reviews/full/index.cfm/id/37564

'2004 Ford Mustang - Test manual-transmission GTs averaged 15.5 mpg, a Mach 1 16.3 with more highway miles. Expect slightly better with V6. Cobra convertibles averaged 13.8 mpg with gas-eating performance tests, 17.4 in mostly highway driving. '