Renault given a 2 year ban from F1
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Correction - "pathetic" - should read "lily-livered" or something more extreme.
Astounding to give the team virtually no punishment when Renault walked away with £50 million prize money that year, earned by, errrr, cheating (now they admit they cheated at the Council hearing).
what's even funnier is the weakness of the suspended ban - if Renault do not re-offend by doing something of the same magnitude again (remember this is the decade's worst example of F1 cheating apparently), then the suspended ban will not be brought into effect.
unbelievable.
ahhh - that is not fair of me - Renault ARE going to help the FIA (as part of the "punishment" with safety measures (like how to survive deliberate car crashes with no personal injury).
My faith in the FIA is bolstered further by their steely will!
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Astounding to give the team virtually no punishment when Renault walked away with £50 million prize money that year, earned by, errrr, cheating (now they admit they cheated at the Council hearing).
what's even funnier is the weakness of the suspended ban - if Renault do not re-offend by doing something of the same magnitude again (remember this is the decade's worst example of F1 cheating apparently), then the suspended ban will not be brought into effect.
unbelievable.
ahhh - that is not fair of me - Renault ARE going to help the FIA (as part of the "punishment" with safety measures (like how to survive deliberate car crashes with no personal injury).
My faith in the FIA is bolstered further by their steely will!
<end of rant>
Edited by Grinning on Monday 21st September 14:32
Max has already got what he wanted, and end to Flav's involvement in F1. And I'm happy with that too.
Renault as a company, have had a long fiar and honourable presence in F1 and motor-sport in general. they do a lot for the fans too - free tickets for WSBR is great.
I'd hate to see Renault punished by what was just yet another Briatore cheat episode.
Renault as a company, have had a long fiar and honourable presence in F1 and motor-sport in general. they do a lot for the fans too - free tickets for WSBR is great.
I'd hate to see Renault punished by what was just yet another Briatore cheat episode.
I think what is upsetting about Renault's lack of punishment is that the FIA is not being seen to be even-handed in their treatment of teams - would Ferrari or Maclaren been treated in the same way if they had acted in an identical fashion to Renault? Who knows. The FIA need some fresh blood so that we can SEE a more transparent and consistent approach.
Briatore - the knives were out and it looks like there may be implications for his QPR co-ownership if QPR.ORG's take is right:
"As for Queens Park Rangers, it remains to be seen whether his position is under threat under the 'Fit and Proper Owners Test' with the article preventing "Anyone subject to a ban from a sports governing body relating to the administration of that sport," from becoming or remaining an owner in a football club above the threshold of 30%."
How will he occupy his time? http://www.eastandard.net/columnists/InsidePage.ph...
Back to Renault - is it right that they keep ALL of their winnings from the 2008 season?
Briatore - the knives were out and it looks like there may be implications for his QPR co-ownership if QPR.ORG's take is right:
"As for Queens Park Rangers, it remains to be seen whether his position is under threat under the 'Fit and Proper Owners Test' with the article preventing "Anyone subject to a ban from a sports governing body relating to the administration of that sport," from becoming or remaining an owner in a football club above the threshold of 30%."
How will he occupy his time? http://www.eastandard.net/columnists/InsidePage.ph...
Back to Renault - is it right that they keep ALL of their winnings from the 2008 season?
Edited by Grinning on Monday 21st September 15:55
terrible decision. ron dennis & mclaren were treated like mass murderers for being in possession of some paper.... whilst renault get off with just a tap on the wrist for race fixing & possibly endagering someones life when piquet stuffed his car into the wall.
which is more dangerous & potentially damaging to the sport?
a bundle of papers.... or some fool slamming a high powered race car into the wall?
absolutely disgusting. how can piquet ever be allowed back onto a race grid ever again? who would ant to race against him now?
he should have been banned from the sport for life.
which is more dangerous & potentially damaging to the sport?
a bundle of papers.... or some fool slamming a high powered race car into the wall?
absolutely disgusting. how can piquet ever be allowed back onto a race grid ever again? who would ant to race against him now?
he should have been banned from the sport for life.
According to this it was Piquet's idea
http://f1.autotrader.co.uk/story/0,25552,3213_5577...
Briatore fault was going along with it.
It's only a game of strategy so in the scheme of things it was quite cunning.
Was it really illegal?
http://f1.autotrader.co.uk/story/0,25552,3213_5577...
Briatore fault was going along with it.
It's only a game of strategy so in the scheme of things it was quite cunning.
Was it really illegal?
Edited by saaby93 on Wednesday 23 September 13:26
The question is also, who will now employ Piquet? I certainly wouldn't.
Even without the suggestion that it was his idea to create the crash, you still have to question his character to have gone through with it.
Martin Brundle even suggested (before the revelations) that another team (Ferrari before Fisi got the job) should give him another chance, just in case it was Flavio that was preventing him to perform.
Not a hope in Sundays will this driver sit in a F1 race ever again and I doubt any large team of any formula, unless it is his own team. I should have respected his decision to bring this out in the open, but the only reason he did this was to bring down Flavio.
Even without the suggestion that it was his idea to create the crash, you still have to question his character to have gone through with it.
Martin Brundle even suggested (before the revelations) that another team (Ferrari before Fisi got the job) should give him another chance, just in case it was Flavio that was preventing him to perform.
Not a hope in Sundays will this driver sit in a F1 race ever again and I doubt any large team of any formula, unless it is his own team. I should have respected his decision to bring this out in the open, but the only reason he did this was to bring down Flavio.
[quote=flanok]The question is also, who will now employ Piquet? I certainly wouldn't.
Even without the suggestion that it was his idea to create the crash, you still have to question his character to have gone through with it.
Martin Brundle even suggested (before the revelations) that another team (Ferrari before Fisi got the job) should give him another chance, just in case it was Flavio that was preventing him to perform.
Not a hope in Sundays will this driver sit in a F1 race ever again and I doubt any large team of any formula, unless it is his own team. I should have respected his decision to bring this out in the open, but the only reason he did this was to bring down Flavio.
He's close to unemployable (at least in F1) now. No one wants a "cheat" onboard. His reputation is tainted !
Oh, do Renault still collect their prize money (10 points) for Alonso' Singapore win ?
J
Even without the suggestion that it was his idea to create the crash, you still have to question his character to have gone through with it.
Martin Brundle even suggested (before the revelations) that another team (Ferrari before Fisi got the job) should give him another chance, just in case it was Flavio that was preventing him to perform.
Not a hope in Sundays will this driver sit in a F1 race ever again and I doubt any large team of any formula, unless it is his own team. I should have respected his decision to bring this out in the open, but the only reason he did this was to bring down Flavio.
He's close to unemployable (at least in F1) now. No one wants a "cheat" onboard. His reputation is tainted !
Oh, do Renault still collect their prize money (10 points) for Alonso' Singapore win ?
J
If you don't like F1 then go and watch something else.
There are other forms of motorsport and most of them are, frankly, a lot better than overrated F1 has been for a long time.
Why not go to a local club circuit, rally or hillclimb instead. You might actually enjoy yourself instead of wasting your life watching stage managed liars and cheats winning on the basis of points gained by twisting rules, crashing, deliberatly, losing and finally fawning over the race authority.
Oh, another thing, you won't have to put up with people defending it on the basis of "all the technology involved" either. Most of it is totally irrelevent to anything on the road today. How much of this stuff ever got on a Renault anyway? Carbon chassis? Ceramic brakes? Active suspension? Slick tyres? V10 engines? Flappy paddle gearbox (a real one, not just an overrated gimmick that'll cost you an absolute fortune when it finaly goes wrong and leaves you with no gear change on the hard shoulder).
Go and watch a soap box race, go to the Brighton trials, go to goodwood, go to a local hillclimb, in fact do anything that's better than watching F1.
There are other forms of motorsport and most of them are, frankly, a lot better than overrated F1 has been for a long time.
Why not go to a local club circuit, rally or hillclimb instead. You might actually enjoy yourself instead of wasting your life watching stage managed liars and cheats winning on the basis of points gained by twisting rules, crashing, deliberatly, losing and finally fawning over the race authority.
Oh, another thing, you won't have to put up with people defending it on the basis of "all the technology involved" either. Most of it is totally irrelevent to anything on the road today. How much of this stuff ever got on a Renault anyway? Carbon chassis? Ceramic brakes? Active suspension? Slick tyres? V10 engines? Flappy paddle gearbox (a real one, not just an overrated gimmick that'll cost you an absolute fortune when it finaly goes wrong and leaves you with no gear change on the hard shoulder).
Go and watch a soap box race, go to the Brighton trials, go to goodwood, go to a local hillclimb, in fact do anything that's better than watching F1.
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