Cocks on the road
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Why are there so many cocks of british roads?
In one journey I had a student or a very young pup driving up the middle of lane three
and four of the M25, he was actually driving over the white markings separating the lanes
and continued to do so for about 15 miles, people were forced to undertake this comedian!
Eventually i pulled over for a dark blue Evo X and it transpired it was surreys latest toy
in the traffic division, he had been behind me for three or four miles so had witnessed this complete
joke of a driver and had no choice but to get him onto the hard shoulder asap!
I then get near my destination and find this utter Toss-- weaving in and out of the traffic
on a one way system going around Guildford and actually clipping the wing mirror of my car
whilst trying to squeeze through a gap between two lanes, he then pulls in next to me and has the cheek to grin!
Finally i get to my destination to find a large lorry parked over my work parking space
where it is clearly signposted not to park! The driver had gone to subway to have breakfast!
Has anyone seen the film Falling down! Maybe tomorrow!!
In one journey I had a student or a very young pup driving up the middle of lane three
and four of the M25, he was actually driving over the white markings separating the lanes
and continued to do so for about 15 miles, people were forced to undertake this comedian!
Eventually i pulled over for a dark blue Evo X and it transpired it was surreys latest toy
in the traffic division, he had been behind me for three or four miles so had witnessed this complete
joke of a driver and had no choice but to get him onto the hard shoulder asap!
I then get near my destination and find this utter Toss-- weaving in and out of the traffic
on a one way system going around Guildford and actually clipping the wing mirror of my car
whilst trying to squeeze through a gap between two lanes, he then pulls in next to me and has the cheek to grin!
Finally i get to my destination to find a large lorry parked over my work parking space
where it is clearly signposted not to park! The driver had gone to subway to have breakfast!
Has anyone seen the film Falling down! Maybe tomorrow!!
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ianwayne said:
The only thing that gets on my t*ts is the failure to indicate by so many drivers now. Especially the many I see on the motorway who think that 'cos they're going fast, they can switch lanes without bothering to indicate. C*cks, and dangerous the lot of them.
They might all be advanced drivers who, having thoroughly surveyed the scene, decided that no one would benefit from a signal, and therefore they didn't give one. That's perfectly legitimate, so long as their observation is really good.Best wishes all,
Dave.
p1esk said:
ianwayne said:
The only thing that gets on my t*ts is the failure to indicate by so many drivers now. Especially the many I see on the motorway who think that 'cos they're going fast, they can switch lanes without bothering to indicate. C*cks, and dangerous the lot of them.
They might all be advanced drivers who, having thoroughly surveyed the scene, decided that no one would benefit from a signal, and therefore they didn't give one. That's perfectly legitimate, so long as their observation is really good.Best wishes all,
Dave.
I was driving to work on a DC and there was a builder's truck straddling the lanes but mainly in 2, doing about 40 in a 50 limit. I hung back, but a motorcycle went past in lane 1 and was almost crushed as the truck drifted across with no indication. The truck then jerked back into lane 2, and then slowly drifted back into lane one. I overtook, and the driver was on a mobile phone. C**ksucking w
ker.
ker.Edited by davepoth on Thursday 1st October 22:34
Ive had a woman overtake me with oncoming traffic just to end up in front of me at a set of red light's, she cut me up aswell as she didn't go in to the opposing lane fully, and she overtook really slowly for some reason.
Looking back I should have reported her to the authorithie's.
Looking back I should have reported her to the authorithie's.
Edited by VinnyTheGolfMan on Saturday 3rd October 13:44
We had a great one this week,taking my mates new car out for a spin. Driving along at 30 there was a van in a lay by waiting to pull out, he then proceeded to edge out causing us to swerve then when we got to the next set of lights he was blaring on the horn & giving the international w**ker sign! For us not stopping to let him out!? Maybe he didn't like 911turbo's or something but these things always happen when you're in a nice car.very sad.
But to make matters worse I jumped out the passenger side to ask him what his problem was & he sh*t himself & took off through a red light,I booted the side of his van & my foot hasn't stopped aching since.I wish I'd got his reg I maybe could of sued lol
But to make matters worse I jumped out the passenger side to ask him what his problem was & he sh*t himself & took off through a red light,I booted the side of his van & my foot hasn't stopped aching since.I wish I'd got his reg I maybe could of sued lol
cragswinter said:
We had a great one this week,taking my mates new car out for a spin. Driving along at 30 there was a van in a lay by waiting to pull out, he then proceeded to edge out causing us to swerve then when we got to the next set of lights he was blaring on the horn & giving the international w**ker sign! For us not stopping to let him out!? Maybe he didn't like 911turbo's or something but these things always happen when you're in a nice car.very sad.
But to make matters worse I jumped out the passenger side to ask him what his problem was & he sh*t himself & took off through a red light,I booted the side of his van & my foot hasn't stopped aching since.I wish I'd got his reg I maybe could of sued lol
^^^^This actually makes you sound like a cock. Why didn't you let him out?But to make matters worse I jumped out the passenger side to ask him what his problem was & he sh*t himself & took off through a red light,I booted the side of his van & my foot hasn't stopped aching since.I wish I'd got his reg I maybe could of sued lol
cragswinter said:
We had a great one this week,taking my mates new car out for a spin. Driving along at 30 there was a van in a lay by waiting to pull out, he then proceeded to edge out causing us to swerve then when we got to the next set of lights he was blaring on the horn & giving the international w**ker sign! For us not stopping to let him out!? Maybe he didn't like 911turbo's or something but these things always happen when you're in a nice car.very sad.
But to make matters worse I jumped out the passenger side to ask him what his problem was & he sh*t himself & took off through a red light,I booted the side of his van & my foot hasn't stopped aching since.I wish I'd got his reg I maybe could of sued lol
I'll bet his version of events though will go along the lines of:But to make matters worse I jumped out the passenger side to ask him what his problem was & he sh*t himself & took off through a red light,I booted the side of his van & my foot hasn't stopped aching since.I wish I'd got his reg I maybe could of sued lol
"I was pulling out onto the road, big gap to pull into when a 911 turbo decides f
k you in your shy van,speeds up and overtakes me as i'm pulling out. I waved at him to tell him he's a flash wr who could've slowed down and let me out. Next thing I know, at the next set of lights, his mate gets out of the passengers side looking to start something, so I scarpered before I got the st kicked out of me".Same incident, different side to the events.
Why as a passenger did you feel the need to get out and approach the driver of the van?. You weren't the driver of the car so why were you more aggrieved than the driver?, after all, he didn't feel the need to get out. How was the driver of the van to know you weren't going to physically attack him?, in the circumstances that would be a logical conclussion. In this day and age I'd be very wary of approaching another driver in this situation, you don't know if he's got a knife, a bat, a crow bar or even a gun. at the end of the day, no one was hurt, no damage was done but you could have made the situation much worse.
Like I said before: no one is as good a driver as we are ourselves!
Edited by 4rephill on Saturday 17th October 11:27
Good debate!
In reply to the above the driver didn't speed up we were following traffic at the speed limit as mentioned.the driver of the van tried to force his way out in my opinion though he's more than entitled to do this I suppose. I don't doubt the van driver thought we were a couple of flash gits but since when is owning a nice car a crime? In my opinion the Porsche driver made no error but still had to put up with the other driver calling him a w**nker & flicking the finger.
Now why did I get involved? If you were on the street & saw a man in his early 20s abusing a man in his sixties would you not say anything? If it happened in a pub? So where's the difference if you are in a car? I try to drive as courteously as possible but some things do annoy & it's easy to get wound up. Of course everyone acts in their own way but why should you put up with some prat giving you abuse?
As some have mentioned how do you react with a middle lane
hogger? Flash your lights? Undertake? Fly up behind then sweep up into the outside lane then cut back accross to the inside? Any if the above & chances are they'll still carry on in their merry way. Bad driving is bad driving & maybe I am a cock but if someone is giving my friend who is in his 60's a load of abbuse well I'm sorry but I'll have something to say back!
& in relation to all you White van drivers out there (I'm one myself) there are only two types of vehicle I always give way to,commercial & taxis. These boys are trying to earn a living so give them a chance!
Let the debate continue!!
In reply to the above the driver didn't speed up we were following traffic at the speed limit as mentioned.the driver of the van tried to force his way out in my opinion though he's more than entitled to do this I suppose. I don't doubt the van driver thought we were a couple of flash gits but since when is owning a nice car a crime? In my opinion the Porsche driver made no error but still had to put up with the other driver calling him a w**nker & flicking the finger.
Now why did I get involved? If you were on the street & saw a man in his early 20s abusing a man in his sixties would you not say anything? If it happened in a pub? So where's the difference if you are in a car? I try to drive as courteously as possible but some things do annoy & it's easy to get wound up. Of course everyone acts in their own way but why should you put up with some prat giving you abuse?
As some have mentioned how do you react with a middle lane
hogger? Flash your lights? Undertake? Fly up behind then sweep up into the outside lane then cut back accross to the inside? Any if the above & chances are they'll still carry on in their merry way. Bad driving is bad driving & maybe I am a cock but if someone is giving my friend who is in his 60's a load of abbuse well I'm sorry but I'll have something to say back!
& in relation to all you White van drivers out there (I'm one myself) there are only two types of vehicle I always give way to,commercial & taxis. These boys are trying to earn a living so give them a chance!
Let the debate continue!!
cragswinter said:
Good debate!
In reply to the above the driver didn't speed up we were following traffic at the speed limit as mentioned.the driver of the van tried to force his way out in my opinion though he's more than entitled to do this I suppose. I don't doubt the van driver thought we were a couple of flash gits but since when is owning a nice car a crime? In my opinion the Porsche driver made no error but still had to put up with the other driver calling him a w**nker & flicking the finger.
Now why did I get involved? If you were on the street & saw a man in his early 20s abusing a man in his sixties would you not say anything? If it happened in a pub? So where's the difference if you are in a car? I try to drive as courteously as possible but some things do annoy & it's easy to get wound up. Of course everyone acts in their own way but why should you put up with some prat giving you abuse?
As some have mentioned how do you react with a middle lane
hogger? Flash your lights? Undertake? Fly up behind then sweep up into the outside lane then cut back accross to the inside? Any if the above & chances are they'll still carry on in their merry way. Bad driving is bad driving & maybe I am a cock but if someone is giving my friend who is in his 60's a load of abbuse well I'm sorry but I'll have something to say back!
& in relation to all you White van drivers out there (I'm one myself) there are only two types of vehicle I always give way to,commercial & taxis. These boys are trying to earn a living so give them a chance!
Let the debate continue!!
Before someone else says it, let Me be the first to point out that I was not there so can't know the reality of events. My point was that there's a van driver out there with a different version (rightly or wrongly).In reply to the above the driver didn't speed up we were following traffic at the speed limit as mentioned.the driver of the van tried to force his way out in my opinion though he's more than entitled to do this I suppose. I don't doubt the van driver thought we were a couple of flash gits but since when is owning a nice car a crime? In my opinion the Porsche driver made no error but still had to put up with the other driver calling him a w**nker & flicking the finger.
Now why did I get involved? If you were on the street & saw a man in his early 20s abusing a man in his sixties would you not say anything? If it happened in a pub? So where's the difference if you are in a car? I try to drive as courteously as possible but some things do annoy & it's easy to get wound up. Of course everyone acts in their own way but why should you put up with some prat giving you abuse?
As some have mentioned how do you react with a middle lane
hogger? Flash your lights? Undertake? Fly up behind then sweep up into the outside lane then cut back accross to the inside? Any if the above & chances are they'll still carry on in their merry way. Bad driving is bad driving & maybe I am a cock but if someone is giving my friend who is in his 60's a load of abbuse well I'm sorry but I'll have something to say back!
& in relation to all you White van drivers out there (I'm one myself) there are only two types of vehicle I always give way to,commercial & taxis. These boys are trying to earn a living so give them a chance!
Let the debate continue!!
Fair enough, different people react to situations differently and I hope you don't think I was reffering to you as a cock as that was not My intention.
However, you say you wanted to defend your friend who was driving, who is in his sixties and in the right circumstances that is highly commendable (if only there was more of it in the world).
But your friend had not been peronally abused face to face, it was actually an Anonymous piece of abuse from one vehicle to another (lets be honest, we all do it now and again one way or another).
Your actions would have made it more personal than it needed to be though and things could have got out of hand as you did not know who you were dealing with (might have been a right nutcase, you don't know in this day and age, it happens).
As a van driver yourself, do you honestly believe that the van driver knew your friend was a man in his sixties (not that that should matter really), as it passed around him?. I've rarely driven vans but when I have it's hard to see into family saloons never mind low sports cars. Knowing how old your friend is may have changed the level of abuse he recieved or not we'll never know.
Blimey! I'm gonna sound like a right do-gooder here, but here we go:
Yes, there was some bad driving involved but no one got hurt, had it happened on foot whilst walking down the high street I'm sure all parties would have apologised to each other the way we do in this country and there would have been no hard feelings.
As it happens, it was in vehicles, the van driver got a bout of road rage, possibly due to the type of car involved but I suspect the reaction would have been the same with any other car. At the end of the day though, let the road rage be his and don't react to it making it your issue as well. Don't get Me wrong, I'm no saint while driving and get annoyed with as many people as I'm sure I annoy them!, but it's nothing personal, they just don't drive as well as I do.
As for middle lane hoggers:
I indicate from lane 1 to lane 2 in good time.
From a sensible distance back I give 2 slow flashes of main beam to inform them I'm there.
If they don't move into lane 1 then I indicate from lane 2 into lane 3 in good time.
Pass the car in lane 3 (shaking My head and swearing quietly) until I am a sensible distance ahead.
I then indicate from lane 3 back to lane 2 or 1 depending on traffic ahead and hope they realise their mistake.
If they don't, that's their problem, not mine.
If there are only two lanes available and they won't move over, despite being flashed, then I sit at a sensible distance behind until My route is clear.
(As a side note, if it's at night and they won't move over on a 2 lane road I have found that they tend to move over if you alternate flashing your main beam and front foglights slowly for some reason
).Anyway, I'm off to drive Miss Daisy (and if she doesn't stop back seat driving, she's gonna get such a b
h slapping!)deepvolleymaster said:
Why are there so many cocks of british roads?
Because bad driving becomes good driving when you never get pulled by plod for doing it. The other night at 9pm I joined a road following a fully marked Vectra police car that was travelling behind a 307 that only had 1 rear light on, we drove along for 3 miles then the 307 turned left and me and plod carried on, why didn't plod follow him and stop him? He's banged to rights.Even a policeman on foot in the rush hour at a busy junction could pull in a small fortune in FPN, how many times do you see a car with a headlight or tail light out and that's just your starter for ten.
I caught up to a car on the M5 at junction 1 last night he was doing 54mph in lane 2, now I could either pull out from lane one and flash him then probably have to pull back in if he wouldn't move(in which case technically I have changed lanes to undertake someone), or I can just sail by him in lane one, which I did it didn't feel right but what the hell.
I watched in my mirror as a car approached him in lane 2, he flashed once, he flashed twice then guess what happened?
Yes you dosy old t
t in lane 2 moved over into lane 3 and the car that flashed him moved into lane one and undertook him then pulled out into lane 2 to pass me. I usually only see this kind of move once every ten years, what is going on in some peoples heads.As I said the police don't stop and book enough of the 'cocks'
Edited to mention I was not allowed in lane 3 as it was a truck. The guy was not going in lane one what ever I did.
Edited by Mr Green on Saturday 17th October 22:11
cragswinter said:
Bad driving is bad driving & maybe I am a cock but if someone is giving my friend who is in his 60's a load of abbuse well I'm sorry but I'll have something to say back!
*takes a deep breath, waiting for the response*If someone's behaving badly, you make sure they're held responsible, but you do it in the right way. Otherwise we wouldn't have police, we'd have everyone going around and belting people they didn't like the look of.
I wasn't there, so I'm in no position to defend the actions of the van driver. I'm not going to- he may very well have been a total tosser. He was certainly in the wrong to make any "w" symbol.
No matter how wrong he was, it doesn't excuse you doing worse. What was getting out of the car going to achieve except scare him or wind him up? What was kicking his van going to do except start a fight if he didn't keep driving? Or getting you done for criminal damage by the coppers?
If someone got out of their car, shouted and tried to kick my car, I'd have been straight onto the phone to the coppers, videoed you with my mobile phone and got my insurers to bill you for it all. Consider yourself lucky to have got away with a sore foot.
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