No new Supra...instead this - disappointment
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www.supraforums.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=163053
I'm disappointed. Sometimes I question if it is even worse in being interested in high performance cars and modifying them when there are too many threats to the aftermarket scene, high performance cars, and motoring in general.
And this is a major step down from the MKIVTT.
And don't flame me for this, either (don't shoot the messenger). I do know it may sound untrue due to the English used by the person who is reporting this.
And I debated whether to post this in the Jap car chat section or here.
I'm disappointed. Sometimes I question if it is even worse in being interested in high performance cars and modifying them when there are too many threats to the aftermarket scene, high performance cars, and motoring in general.
And this is a major step down from the MKIVTT.
And don't flame me for this, either (don't shoot the messenger). I do know it may sound untrue due to the English used by the person who is reporting this.
And I debated whether to post this in the Jap car chat section or here.
shadowninja said:
oh dear. it looks like an 80s interpretation of a 21st century supercar. or just naff. it's so bad i cant be bothered to analyse it! still it has 300bhp. and economical too.
But it's not what a Supra had become known for!! It's chucked away everything that made the Supra a legend (ok, so it isn't made so I can't really say, but it makes sense to say it won't be tuneable like the MKIV, etc)! So how will this car be a success? And how can it even be classed as a replacement for the Supra? I'd say it's a step down overall IMHO.
I had heard about this as well, and my take on it was that this was not a replacement for, but an additional model, and that the Supra (under what name?) was going to be built.
Perhaps I am wrong, or perhaps the poster of that thread is wrong, since once that car is announced, it would be a natural to think that the other would not be developed.
I don't follow them that close.
Perhaps I am wrong, or perhaps the poster of that thread is wrong, since once that car is announced, it would be a natural to think that the other would not be developed.
I don't follow them that close.
RobDickinson said:
I just went through the first 4/5 pages of that thread. They havnt got a clue.
Move along, nothing to see here.
Mind you Toyota have ditched inline 6's which is a shame.
Rob:
I'm LSR on that thread/forum (I made a misconception with regards to hydrogen engines....as stated later,their not internal combustion - should have thought before I typed).
I do agree that it does seem to be that the information may be false. But a member with an established amount of posts wouldn't post false information, a new member maybe.
He did make a lot of misconceptions (don't need to state which ones, their obvious), which doesn't help his case.
It could easily be true because using hybrid engines and superchargers would be the most environmentally friendly and likely option despite the car (car would have to suit the engine, not vice versa). That seems like a Toyota thing to do - shame they ditched the 2JZ-GTE and I6 TT configs - damn emissions regs.
I posted this thread when I read a bit of that thread (about half of the first page), when it all seemed genuine (spelling mistakes didn't help him, either), but reading on, it seems like the thread topic is a joke. I did want to and tried to delete this thread, but it was too late. And anyway, there are some good ofshoots for constructive discussion, stemming from that thread - not the guessing of whether Toyota will make another Supra or not, but with regards to the future of engines - hybrid?, and Toyota's lack of commitment to I6 TTs and sports cars in general, etc...
What with companies all rushing to make desil sports cars etc al I think anything is beleivable lol.
Hydrogen powered cars look like they may make an appearance, but you cant easily keep liquid hydrogen in cars, and as a gas it wont get you far.
With hydrogen you'll need some sort of forced induction just to up the power to reasonable levels - see mazda's hydrogen RX-8 (rotaries are very well suited to hydrogen power) makes 1/2 the HP of normal and thats with a turbo.
Electric cars powered by fuel cells may be the answeer. Electric motors are always at peak torque and whats held them back is power storage, a cheap fuel cell may save that.
Petrol engines will be a round for a while longer I think anyhow, shame toyota are ditching the I6's.
Hydrogen powered cars look like they may make an appearance, but you cant easily keep liquid hydrogen in cars, and as a gas it wont get you far.
With hydrogen you'll need some sort of forced induction just to up the power to reasonable levels - see mazda's hydrogen RX-8 (rotaries are very well suited to hydrogen power) makes 1/2 the HP of normal and thats with a turbo.
Electric cars powered by fuel cells may be the answeer. Electric motors are always at peak torque and whats held them back is power storage, a cheap fuel cell may save that.
Petrol engines will be a round for a while longer I think anyhow, shame toyota are ditching the I6's.
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