Track day in the Cerb
Discussion
Check all fluid levels before and after
Check all tyres before and after
Start with pressures around 25psi all around but adjust to suit
Check wheel nuts with a breaker bar!
Make sure your bonnets locked down and that nothings going to fall off the car
Know your flags
Drive within your limits and ALWAYS check your mirrors
Enjoy it.....its very addictive
Check all tyres before and after
Start with pressures around 25psi all around but adjust to suit
Check wheel nuts with a breaker bar!
Make sure your bonnets locked down and that nothings going to fall off the car
Know your flags
Drive within your limits and ALWAYS check your mirrors
Enjoy it.....its very addictive
1) Change your brake fluid
2) Do a cool down lap before coming into the pits
3) Check your brakes leaving the pits
I didn't do any of these things: hello gravel trap.
I've done about ten track days in the Cerbera and love them. I don't 'race', rather I use the event to try and improve my skills and get a better feel for the car.
May pay to do a few laps in the car with a track instructor.
I would never admit to this in public, but howling around the track in such a classic and attractive vehicle does have a '007' feel to it!
Spend some time getting your seating position right. You may need to lean the seat back so your crash helmet does not hit the roof. Then move the seat so your wrists rest on the top of the steering wheel with your arms stretched out.
2) Do a cool down lap before coming into the pits
3) Check your brakes leaving the pits
I didn't do any of these things: hello gravel trap.
I've done about ten track days in the Cerbera and love them. I don't 'race', rather I use the event to try and improve my skills and get a better feel for the car.
May pay to do a few laps in the car with a track instructor.
I would never admit to this in public, but howling around the track in such a classic and attractive vehicle does have a '007' feel to it!
Spend some time getting your seating position right. You may need to lean the seat back so your crash helmet does not hit the roof. Then move the seat so your wrists rest on the top of the steering wheel with your arms stretched out.
Edited by jonbarrett on Thursday 14th July 23:35
I've never been there, and consider myself a novice, but it looks like a pretty short track with very limited run off. Perhaps there are some useful gravel traps, Google maps seems to suggest so, but either way the obvious advice is drive within your limits. Tuition is always useful, and using your mirrors is essential, because if you're anything like me you'll spend a fair amount of time with your right indicator on. If it's dry in the morning but rains in the afternoon, it's much more fun watching other people than being the one in the tyre wall.
I was looking at the kerbs trying to work out whether it was clockwise or anti clockwise and getting rather confused. A little research reveals:
'Knockhill has an unusual licence which allows it to run in either direction. Because of its location the circuit can experience some severe whether conditions.'
One other thing, get some pax laps (preferably with a rwd car), it will help you see what works and what doesn't.
'Knockhill has an unusual licence which allows it to run in either direction. Because of its location the circuit can experience some severe whether conditions.'
One other thing, get some pax laps (preferably with a rwd car), it will help you see what works and what doesn't.
Check all fluids.
Make sure you have enough meat on the brake pads.
I would set the pressures to around 22 PSI if it is warm and dry or 26 if wet and cold.
Do all your braking in a straight line and turn in with a balanced throttle, feeding the power in as you exit the corner.
Most importent get some instruction, it will be the best money you will spend on the day.
And enjoy
Make sure you have enough meat on the brake pads.
I would set the pressures to around 22 PSI if it is warm and dry or 26 if wet and cold.
Do all your braking in a straight line and turn in with a balanced throttle, feeding the power in as you exit the corner.
Most importent get some instruction, it will be the best money you will spend on the day.
And enjoy
ukkid35 said:
I was looking at the kerbs trying to work out whether it was clockwise or anti clockwise and getting rather confused. A little research reveals:
'Knockhill has an unusual licence which allows it to run in either direction. Because of its location the circuit can experience some severe whether conditions.
KH has only run clockwise for a quite few years now; everything is now setup for clockwise running only. Run-off areas are adequate unless you have something like total brake failure into the hairpin.'Knockhill has an unusual licence which allows it to run in either direction. Because of its location the circuit can experience some severe whether conditions.
KH in the sun [unusual
] http://www.youtube.com/user/tvrolet?feature=mhee#p...KH in the wet/damp [more typical] http://www.youtube.com/user/tvrolet?feature=mhee#p...
There's usually single cones at turn-in and apex on track days, but on these videos there were more cones at various points to stop folks cutting corners and chewing up the grass as the BTCC was coming up and they wanted it to look nice for TV!
There's loads of in-car footage from KH in different conditions I've uploaded, and if you haven't run the track before you could do worse than get the hang of it from in-car videos. Yes, it's from a TVR...sort of. No, it's not a Cerbera.
Experiences I have had a different depending on the format of the track day, and who is organising it. I've done both open pit where you can go on as many time as you like & sessions where you are grouped for fixed times on track. One trick whatever the format is to let all the keen ones go out first as they tend to go for it, and join in when the tempo is a bit more relaxed.
The best day I had was at Goodwood with the Subaru drivers club (they had spare spaces), the track was only 5 cars at a time so you had plenty of track to yourself st your own pace.
The best day I had was at Goodwood with the Subaru drivers club (they had spare spaces), the track was only 5 cars at a time so you had plenty of track to yourself st your own pace.
take along a second car coz if it rains and you are a novice driver in a Cerb on a track its a scary place to be. I did mmy first trackday at Silverstone several years ago in my Cerb and it was wet, to be honest by lunch time I had given up trying to enjoy the Cerb so I put my sons Rover 25 on the track instead...great fun lapped faster than the TVR in the crappy conditions, even the driving instructor had trouble. On a dry day its great enjoy it but dont push to hard because it lets go quiet quickly at the limits.
Don't forget that you can insure against damage via www.competition-car-insurance.co.uk approx £10 per £1k insured, although there is a significant excess.
ukkid35 said:
Don't forget that you can insure against damage via www.competition-car-insurance.co.uk approx £10 per £1k insured, although there is a significant excess.
I have this with my insurance any way and same crack excess is 10 fold on the track
OP
When is your trackday?
I'm not sure I can afford any this year (still have a 3rd car I need to sell) So if you wish some free tuition let me know and I can give you some good pointers.
Also make sure you have plenty of material left on your brake pads as they can go down quite quickly
And yes KH is very short so is easy enough to learn, but it is quite a technically demanding track because of the large camber changes
and you'll love it to bits and be on a constant craving to improve this, and oh I must just make that better... you get the idea :-)
HTH
Mark
oh, and if you see TVROLET... just let him through :-)
When is your trackday?
I'm not sure I can afford any this year (still have a 3rd car I need to sell) So if you wish some free tuition let me know and I can give you some good pointers.
Also make sure you have plenty of material left on your brake pads as they can go down quite quickly
And yes KH is very short so is easy enough to learn, but it is quite a technically demanding track because of the large camber changes
and you'll love it to bits and be on a constant craving to improve this, and oh I must just make that better... you get the idea :-)
HTH
Mark
oh, and if you see TVROLET... just let him through :-)
Edited by Mark_S_24 on Monday 18th July 17:10
Mark_S_24 said:
OP
When is your trackday?
I'm not sure I can afford any this year (still have a 3rd car I need to sell) So if you wish some free tuition let me know and I can give you some good pointers.
Also make sure you have plenty of material left on your brake pads as they can go down quite quickly
And yes KH is very short so is easy enough to learn, but it is quite a technically demanding track because of the large camber changes
and you'll love it to bits and be on a constant craving to improve this, and oh I must just make that better... you get the idea :-)
HTH
Mark
oh, and if you see TVROLET... just let him through :-)
Hi Mark When is your trackday?
I'm not sure I can afford any this year (still have a 3rd car I need to sell) So if you wish some free tuition let me know and I can give you some good pointers.
Also make sure you have plenty of material left on your brake pads as they can go down quite quickly
And yes KH is very short so is easy enough to learn, but it is quite a technically demanding track because of the large camber changes
and you'll love it to bits and be on a constant craving to improve this, and oh I must just make that better... you get the idea :-)
HTH
Mark
oh, and if you see TVROLET... just let him through :-)
Edited by Mark_S_24 on Monday 18th July 17:10
It is this Thursady I am on from 6-8pm and more than happy to take free tuition please.
Have one little issue which may make life a bit harder it pops out of second gear on down changes it was supposed to have been fixed before i bought the car as it had a whole new second gear fitted but i guess it must be the selector. So i have to make sure i mesh every down change in to second spot on or it just pops out even at low speeds.
And i have changed the rear pads out for new ones last week. new fronts should be in the morning and will try bed them in over the next few days so should be good to go.
Edited by scotty_d on Monday 18th July 20:27
Mark_S_24 said:
Hi Scotty,
You know that the start time for track scotland is 16:00 (4pm)?
I shall try to pop up, I'm on call so can't say 100% that I'll make it.
I can finish work @ 15:30 so I'll try to make my way up & hopefully see you there...
and it being Knockhill it'll probably snow :-)
Mark
Yeah i will be up early anyways to get a feel and just watch the action for the first 2 hours till i go on anyway.You know that the start time for track scotland is 16:00 (4pm)?
I shall try to pop up, I'm on call so can't say 100% that I'll make it.
I can finish work @ 15:30 so I'll try to make my way up & hopefully see you there...
and it being Knockhill it'll probably snow :-)
Mark
Cheers Again Scott
scotty_d said:
Yeah i will be up early anyways to get a feel and just watch the action for the first 2 hours till i go on anyway.
Cheers Again Scott
Check the thread:Cheers Again Scott
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a... track night - 21st July... Who is going???
and also on the trackscotland site.
The 4-hour session is now off - everyone's just on the 2-hour session since they didn't hit the numbers for 4 hours. But still only 25 cars so should be fairly quiet after the initial rush. Means most folks will be heading up between 17:00 and 17:30.
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