Miss firing.
Miss firing.
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mark.rowe

Original Poster:

230 posts

261 months

Monday 21st June 2004
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Was out driving today and it started to rain heavy, the MIL light came on, then at low revs the car started to missfire, it was idleing much too low also at about 400 rpm and stalling. There seamed to be a smell of electical burning coming form down next to the handbrake in the centre column. Anybody know what's down there?? I will give the dealer a call in the morning anyway, only had it a few days.
Cheers
Mark

joospeed

4,473 posts

301 months

Monday 21st June 2004
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Presumably you didn't get a handbook with the car, or if you did you haven't read it yet?

the burning smell would probably have been your catalyst glowing red hot and slowly setting your car on fire ..

rude girl

6,937 posts

282 months

Monday 21st June 2004
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Ouch, that was harsh hon. He's a newbie, not used to your sense of humour.

For clarity, Joospeed is a real authority on Cerberas and will be more help than anyone else you can find. And has apparently had a bad day

>> Edited by rude girl on Monday 21st June 21:20

Boosted Ls1

21,200 posts

283 months

Monday 21st June 2004
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It's not the battery lead chaffing against the propshaft is it??

joospeed

4,473 posts

301 months

Monday 21st June 2004
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rude girl said:
Ouch, that was harsh hon.



lmao .. cruel to be kind! teehee
actually it amazes me how many people never read the handbook .. there's some good information in there ( about misfires and MIL lights amongst others) , so please read it

mark.rowe

Original Poster:

230 posts

261 months

Monday 21st June 2004
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Oh Dear!! That doesn't sound good!
I had read the book about the MIL light, I thought it was to do with the engine control unit, that got me thinking along the lines of a shorted out wire or something.
I'd heard joospeed have a good rep, bit out of my way though, live up in Newcastle.
Cheers for the advice anyway.

rude girl

6,937 posts

282 months

Monday 21st June 2004
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If you're a newbie, is your car new to you too? If you got it from a dealer, it might be worth making a bit of fuss. If not, dropping a mail to Joospeed might be worth a try - usually a bit of a wait to get in but generally worth it in my experience.

BTW Joolz - Griff developed a new clunk today - might be as well to book the whole of that weekend for me

mark.rowe

Original Poster:

230 posts

261 months

Monday 21st June 2004
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Yeah, just got it on Friday from HHC 1997 4.2,
I'll get on to them tomorrow and see what can be done!
I'm off abroard for 4 months work this weekend too so that doesn't help things either. the dealers I got it off are taking it back in August whilst i'm away for a service so it might have to wait till then.
Cheers
Mark.

malman

2,258 posts

282 months

Monday 21st June 2004
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Sorry to hear about your troubles Mark. Sorry can't help but just posted to say hi to a another Newcastle Cerby owner. Hope to see you around (4 months you say ) Get yourself along to the TVR meet at the airport. Nice company but not many Cerbs although the ranks seem to be swelling lately.

Been having some electrical problems myself lately so mines gone home to get fixed

Neil

PS get a pic on your profile so you can be identified on the road. If you get flashed by a silver saxo VTR thats probably me unless I have the purple peril back.


>> Edited by malman on Monday 21st June 22:15

mark.rowe

Original Poster:

230 posts

261 months

Monday 21st June 2004
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Cheers Neil,
How often do they have have the meetings?? i'll have to get myself up there.
I'll try to get a photo sorted out, it's in imperial blue pearl, with the headlight conversion P reg.
Been wanting one for ages but had to wait till the dreaded insurance dropped to a reasonable price!!
Might see you around.
MArk.

gazzab

21,550 posts

305 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2004
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be careful with how you handle this one mate!
If the car is running badly and overfuelling then the cats are full of fuel and then totally stuffed. So if you bought car from a dealer recently then insist that they find the fuelling prob and that they replace the cat(s). If they tell you the cats are ok then I would get an MOT station to just check the emissions before it is too late!

Byff

4,427 posts

284 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2004
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Hiya. Nice to see more Cerbera's in the North East, you'll have to get out to the PH'ers night's out. The current one is being organised in the North East section for the 6th July (I think).

If your MIL light is coming on and you've only just bought it from HHC, I'd advise a trip back to get it sorted, never mind asking on here. Tony's a nice lad that'll sort you out.

mark.rowe

Original Poster:

230 posts

261 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2004
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Phoned Tony this morning and had it back through HHC this afternoon, all sorted now. They fitted new Lambda sensor and mapped the ECU without a problem, I haven't started my warrenty yet either, go abroard to work for 4 months so said would be best to start warrenty when I get back so get longer out of it. They all seam a good bunch through there.
I'll miss that night out on 6th July, off to work on 30th June, i'll be back around October so i'll get myself to some of the meetings then.

Thanks a lot
Mark.

gazzab

21,550 posts

305 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2004
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and new cats?

mark.rowe

Original Poster:

230 posts

261 months

Saturday 26th June 2004
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They said cats would be fine but i could get them tested and any problems they would replace them.
Took it to a garage my uncle works at with MOT station and did an emissions test and all was fine. Thanks for the advice, if they were goosed I wouldn't of liked to fork out for some new ones!!

julian64

14,325 posts

277 months

Sunday 27th June 2004
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If a cerb passes a normal emission test there is something very wrong with the car.

trooper1212

9,457 posts

275 months

Sunday 27th June 2004
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julian64 said:
If a cerb passes a normal emission test there is something very wrong with the car.


Well, having just had a clean bill of health after a full 36000 mile service including an MOT that was passed without any problems, I'd have to disagree

joospeed

4,473 posts

301 months

Sunday 27th June 2004
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it certainly isn't the norm to pass the MOT test without a little bit of , er, sensitive throttle work

Julian64

14,325 posts

277 months

Monday 28th June 2004
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trooper1212 said:

julian64 said:
If a cerb passes a normal emission test there is something very wrong with the car.



Well, having just had a clean bill of health after a full 36000 mile service including an MOT that was passed without any problems, I'd have to disagree



Well let me tell you that my 2000 Cerb is incapable of passing an emissions test via the 'normal' route. I gave it back to a dealer who charged a sum and got it passed. I then analysed it with a home gas anaylser and verified it with a friend of mine who runs a local MOT station. My home gas anaylser was pretty dammed accurate with the MOT test station, at both idle and 2000 rpm pass requirements.

The Cerb has a big dam hole at 2000rpm where the engine sits in a inefficient dip. This is caused by fueling in the ECU. As you rev the car up to 3000rpm the car gets much better on emissions and at 3200 the car will JUST pass emissions, which is probably the fudge that jools is talking about.

IT COULD NOT HAVE PASSED THE DEALER MOT SO THE DEALER MOT WAS HOOKY!.

Further more because I have a lift in my garage I am quite popular with local TVRs and have had a number of Cerbs come round to use the ramp.

NOT A SINGLE CERB TESTED WOULD PASS A CASUAL EMISSIONS TEST MOT. and some of these were cars with brand new MOT's

So if your car does I think it something quite special and I would be very keen to test it to break my theory.

If it has a conventional ECU I would be prepared to make it worth your while by betting you could not pass my gas analyser.

trooper1212

9,457 posts

275 months

Monday 28th June 2004
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Julian64 said:


So if your car does I think it something quite special and I would be very keen to test it to break my theory.

If it has a conventional ECU I would be prepared to make it worth your while by betting you could not pass my gas analyser.


I'm down your way every so often, so I'd be interested to see the results too! I can only go by the bit of paper in front of me, but I'm not willing to bet on it

So, are you saying that every Cerb out there has a dodgy MOT, something I'm perfectly willing to accept if true, but surely that is a serious thing?