Can`t bleed the Clutch

[esso]

I have recently been having trouble getting gears,its been very notchy so i thought i would bleed the clutch.I fitted a new clutch 18 months ago so there is no problem with the clutch itself and the car has had a new slave cylinder and seals.
However the clutch will not bleed,i suspect the seals have gone in the master cylinder,what do others think?
(The clutch has been bled previously so the slave cylinder is fitted correctly)

[Boatbuoy]

Ha ha! Welcome to the wonderful world of clutch slaves!

If your's is a factory fitted/standard slave (the stainless type) I'd suggest there's every chance it's munched it's own seals. Mine failed so I replaced the seals only for it to fail again just 3 months later. I now have a raceproved unit fitted and so far all is good.

[esso]

Normally if the slave cylinder seals have gone you get a pool of fluid under the car.....i dont have this!

[Boatbuoy]

Neither did I, at first!

[ridds]

Slave and seals done at the same time as the clutch? How many miles ago?

How does you pedal feel?

Also have you tried opening the bleed nipple right up (taking care not to spray fluid everywhere!!).

[esso]

The slave & seal was not done at the same time as the clutch.
The pedal was `OK`until i tried to bleed it,now i don`t have any pedal
I have opened the bleed valve fully.

[ridds]

Sounds like the master seals tbh.

Have you checked the clutch pushrod?

[Boatbuoy]

Soggy drivers footwell carpet?

[FarmyardPants]

Does sound like the master, although it would have to be really shot if it can't push the fluid through with the nipple undone.

[Mr Cerbera]

AM in (almost) the same situation. Did my Slave and Master 12,000 miles ago. (My seals had gone together with the return spring in the Master)
Recently, had sticky then impossible shifts. Bought a Master Seal Kit and refurbed it and still no gears (though lots of pressure under the pedal)
Have ordered the RP Slave in an attempt to rid myself of the problem.

Would be very interested to hear how yours turns out.

Will kepp you informed as well

Best of ....

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ETA
When I ble mined last time, had to go through all sorts of rigmerole such as bleeding with the bleed cable inverted and then again with it vertically upwards. Took me ages (and loads of Oil) but that is probably because I am a useless Irk.

ETA 2
Hope you placed the slave holes back in the bellhousing with them at 12 and 6 o' clock - otherwise it won't bleed properly.

Edited by Mr Cerbera on Wednesday 28th March 17:01

[esso]

Fitted a new clutch master cylinder tonight,i had to bleed a lot of air out of the system then adjust the pushrod on the pedal...but......all is fine now!!!...well pleased especially as i was previously told it could have been the flywheel that required skimming.

[esso]

Mr Cerbera said:

AM in (almost) the same situation. Did my Slave and Master 12,000 miles ago. (My seals had gone together with the return spring in the Master)
Recently, had sticky then impossible shifts. Bought a Master Seal Kit and refurbed it and still no gears (though lots of pressure under the pedal)
Have ordered the RP Slave in an attempt to rid myself of the problem.

Would be very interested to hear how yours turns out.

Will kepp you informed as well

Best of ....

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ETA
When I ble mined last time, had to go through all sorts of rigmerole such as bleeding with the bleed cable inverted and then again with it vertically upwards. Took me ages (and loads of Oil) but that is probably because I am a useless Irk.

ETA 2
Hope you placed the slave holes back in the bellhousing with them at 12 and 6 o' clock - otherwise it won't bleed properly.

Edited by Mr Cerbera on Wednesday 28th March 17:01

If you are going to fit a new slave & seals make sure there are no sharp edges on the grooves or edges of the slave cylinder components,also do not pinch the seals when fitting and make sure you use plenty of red race grease on the seals when assembling.