Tyre question
Tyre question
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RCA

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1,769 posts

292 months

Monday 2nd April 2012
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Time is almost upon me for a new set on the cerb... Haven't decided on brand yet but more interested in what sizes people are running?
I have 18" spiders with 255/35/18 on the rear and 225/35/18 on the front... I find the front very twitchy and seems to tramline and follow bumps a little too easily..
Is anyone running 225/40's on the front? Does it help? Or perhaps 235's on the front or is this too wide for the cerb?

Thanks Rich

Gazzab

21,583 posts

306 months

Monday 2nd April 2012
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My car had a reasonably expensive geometry set up but then I put 40s on the front and the front it is too high and it feels less planted. The 40s run in the inner arches. I am swapping back to 35s.

haircutmike

22,457 posts

228 months

Monday 2nd April 2012
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Grahamm runs 255 on the front to improve turn in iirc.

Tanguero

4,535 posts

225 months

Monday 2nd April 2012
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RCA said:
Time is almost upon me for a new set on the cerb... Haven't decided on brand yet but more interested in what sizes people are running?
I have 18" spiders with 255/35/18 on the rear and 225/35/18 on the front... I find the front very twitchy and seems to tramline and follow bumps a little too easily..
Is anyone running 225/40's on the front? Does it help? Or perhaps 235's on the front or is this too wide for the cerb?

Thanks Rich
The wider the tyre the worse the tramlining is likely to be. Going up to 235 is unlikely to help.

Personally I found the biggest improvement in handling was to ditch 18" spiders and go to 16" Oz Saturns as originally fitted, though that doesn't seem to be a popular option for cosmetic reasons.

Bigadz

393 posts

172 months

Monday 2nd April 2012
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Wow 255 fronts, thats a pretty heavy profile. I would have thought that would kill the initial responsiveness even if it improves overall grip. However I havent tried so I might be wrong.

I run RL7 17's which I wanted for best of both worlds in looks and handling, without them turning in the 50p's.

haircutmike

22,457 posts

228 months

Monday 2nd April 2012
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Bigadz said:
Wow 255 fronts, thats a pretty heavy profile. I would have thought that would kill the initial responsiveness even if it improves overall grip. However I havent tried so I might be wrong.

I run RL7 17's which I wanted for best of both worlds in looks and handling, without them turning in the 50p's.
I can confirm, on track it was really good!

Bigadz

393 posts

172 months

Monday 2nd April 2012
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Interesting, must the give the rear even more to think about with the extra grip up front.

spongy

2,236 posts

185 months

Monday 2nd April 2012
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Bud put 225,35,18 on the fronts,and 255,35,18 on the rear.at the mo mine seems a nightmare to drive cos she follows every rut in the road.My arse end was all over the place but with new falkens on she is 100% better,but still bad up front.My geo was done recently and was spot on,so its got to be the tyres.

Mr Cerbera

5,148 posts

254 months

Wednesday 4th April 2012
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Mine has the standard (Mk II) set-up. The tramlining has always increased with wear and, consequently, is perfect with new fitments.

I run Toyo, as recommended and the car has the most phenomenal turn-in and slide self-correction that I have ever known.

In short - put a decent set of new rubber on and I'm sure your normal road driving probs will dissappear.

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p.s. Love that haircut wink

scotty_d

6,795 posts

218 months

Wednesday 4th April 2012
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spongy said:
Bud put 225,35,18 on the fronts,and 255,35,18 on the rear.at the mo mine seems a nightmare to drive cos she follows every rut in the road.My arse end was all over the place but with new falkens on she is 100% better,but still bad up front.My geo was done recently and was spot on,so its got to be the tyres.
Same as mine tyre wise and after the Geo set up yesterday seems as good as it did on the 17" azev's .

Obiwonkeyblokey

5,400 posts

264 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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to resurrect this thread. I am selling my spiders with tyres on and replacing with 18" SP12s ( other thread)

should I stick with the same tyre sizes - im assuming I should and if so whats the current verdict on best all round tyres to get. Currently on new bridgestones ont he back and toyo on the front. I want to use this opportunity to put some great boots on.

As well as brand could you also mnetion which model of tyre to enable me to price up.

thanks

Keithyboy

1,940 posts

294 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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Owen - when I had my road Cerb a couple of years back (before Jamie got hold of it hehe) I ran with the Falkens (452's iirc) in standard size on 18" spiders after having Toyo rubber on it for a long while. As has been said, new boots cured any tramlining I'd previously experienced and I rated the Falkens as a good all rounder too . . . see you in DTEC? winkbiggrin

grahamn

1,777 posts

258 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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haircutmike said:
Bigadz said:
Wow 255 fronts, thats a pretty heavy profile. I would have thought that would kill the initial responsiveness even if it improves overall grip. However I havent tried so I might be wrong.

I run RL7 17's which I wanted for best of both worlds in looks and handling, without them turning in the 50p's.
I can confirm, on track it was really good!
I do run with 255 on the front, but only on the track tyres. On the road it tramlines awfully. On the road I have 235s.

K33LER

216 posts

241 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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Great thread... I got 235's on the front and 255's on the rear on spiders but they are soooo twitchy and I have had a geo set up toO!! I thought it was me!! OR bushes, dampers etc!!

On my previous Cerb I had RL7's (Gazzab, your old ones) and I think it went so much better running on them.

I may even try them out to see what I prefer as I love the look of my spiders but the RL7's aren't that bad to look at and they work really well on the road

leman600

223 posts

240 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2012
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I had very bad tramlining that I just thought was a Cerbera characteristic. It was greatly improved with new tyres (same as originals) and small camber adjustment. I did not notice the tramlining worsening and guess it crept up with tyre wear thankfully to be 100% improved with the tyre swap.

haircutmike

22,457 posts

228 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2012
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Worn tyres always have a tendancy to tramline.

With a deep tread, the tyre can flex in its depth, as it wears, that capability disapears.

That's also why new tyres have less grip in the dry and can squirm around when you "push on".

PoleDriver

29,369 posts

218 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2012
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I've currently got 18" spiders with 225 35 front and 255 35 rear. Goodyear F1 assymetrics. I don't have any tramlining problems but don't particularly like the fact that the rims are sooooooo close to the road, plus the ride is pretty harsh.
Never been a fashion victim so I'm going to 17" wheels to get a bit more sidewall!

gerradiuk

1,669 posts

219 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2012
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I too found the Spider's a bit twitchy, slightly better after a geo , have put 17" Rl7's on & its more relaxing to drive & hug's the road.

Alistair H.

1,173 posts

295 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2012
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grahamn said:
I do run with 255 on the front, but only on the track tyres. On the road it tramlines awfully. On the road I have 235s.
On 18"? What size, 255/35/18?

I am surprised there is room in there for them?


Obiwonkeyblokey

5,400 posts

264 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2012
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Alistair H. said:
On 18"? What size, 255/35/18?

I am surprised there is room in there for them?
i believe thats the standard size, it what I have on the back.

thanks to all for feedback so far