Chassis clean up,
Chassis clean up,
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natben

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2,748 posts

255 months

Sunday 23rd September 2012
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I know some chassis left the factory with some really bad powdercoating on them and the results are that a number of owners now have some serious expense trying to sort them out.
I cleaned a lot of the crap of my chassis when I first got the car 3 years ago and this weekend I jacked it up to check the condition. I gave it a clean with some GUNK and a few old rags and it has come up really well. I was thinking I would have to do quiet a bit of sanding and painting but only a few areas need treatment and it is only really light surface rust. So did the factory get the powdercoating better on newer cars mine is a 2003, I looked at a 2002 T350 before my Cerb and it also had a very solid chassis.

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C3BER

4,714 posts

247 months

Sunday 23rd September 2012
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Just had my 2001 checked and its like yours. It's going on the ramps for a clean and touch up but as it is now its fine and dandy.

pmessling

2,313 posts

227 months

Monday 24th September 2012
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My cars a 2004 car. Although chassis date puts it some where 2003. Most of the chassis is good just some little patches where the powder coat has chipped.

I stripped the front this year as water had gotten under some if the powder coat and caused it to lift. Out riggers are all solid but stripped and painted these as a preventative measure.

All in all happy with it. But yours looks much better than mine and of pretty much the same year.

I found the gutter side the worse out if the two sides.

anonymous-user

78 months

Monday 24th September 2012
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C3BER

4,714 posts

247 months

Monday 24th September 2012
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You can hate me but I'm having a 12k service with tappets along with disks skimming, handbrake sorting, steering wheel ribbon checking and a few other bibs and bobs. That along with the front end respray will be a few penny's but will keep me going.

I'll be cleaning and painting the metal work this winter. I'm under orders to do so under pain of death.

scotty_d

6,795 posts

218 months

Monday 24th September 2012
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PuffsBack

2,442 posts

249 months

Monday 24th September 2012
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natben said:
So did the factory get the powdercoating better on newer cars mine is a 2003, I looked at a 2002 T350 before my Cerb and it also had a very solid chassis.
From my 99 Chimaera and 99 Griff to my 2002 Cerbera I haven't noticed much difference with the main Chassis, all 3 have been fine except where a stone may have chipped the powder coating off the outriggers. However the wishbones of the Cerb seem to be much much better powder coated than the Chim and Griff both of which were in need of quite a lot of attention though nothing a wire brush and a can of POR15 couldn't sort. The Cerb however looks much like yours.

I think the main problems may have been around 96/97 when the factory was running at absolute capacity so quality may have dropped

scotty_d

6,795 posts

218 months

Monday 24th September 2012
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PuffsBack said:
From my 99 Chimaera and 99 Griff to my 2002 Cerbera I haven't noticed much difference with the main Chassis, all 3 have been fine except where a stone may have chipped the powder coating off the outriggers. However the wishbones of the Cerb seem to be much much better powder coated than the Chim and Griff both of which were in need of quite a lot of attention though nothing a wire brush and a can of POR15 couldn't sort. The Cerb however looks much like yours.

I think the main problems may have been around 96/97 when the factory was running at absolute capacity so quality may have dropped
You must have the lucky 99 cars both my 98 Chim and now 99 Cerb were pretty bad, But who is to say they were not that well cared for by previous owners and both were covered in nasty waxoil as well. :yuk:

Demondad

482 posts

239 months

Monday 24th September 2012
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That does look impressive for a car nearly ten years old! Out of interest Natben, what mileage, garaging and wet weather usage has your car been subjected too?

Mines a 2003, 37K garaged, driven in the rain on occasions but salty winter roads are avoided, and there are areas where the powder coat comes off in sheets on the front suspension mounts. I'm definitely going to have to clean up and paint to protect.

natben

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2,748 posts

255 months

Monday 24th September 2012
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My car is also at 37k miles, I keep it in the garage.

It was used in all weathers by the last owner but while I have had it I avoid the hard winter and road salt and I have also kept it out the rain where possible but I do USE it it isn't a garage queen I just do not like driving a powerfull rear wheel drive in the wet. ("Pussy")!!!

Last year I re-powder coated the front wish bones as I had them of to replace the ball joints and bushes, they were showing surface rust and the powder coating was starting to peel in places and would have needed re-freshed in the next year or so. I haven't touched the rear end of the car and the chassis is fine.

The bottom front wishbones are showing signs of surface rust after only being powdercoated a year ago, so I guess the quality of powdercoating can vary quite a bit. I will give them a rub and paint during the winter.

I guess the best advice is to keep on top of it and if you see it starting to go "jump on it". I do not have the skills for a body off and certainly don't have the cash for one either at this time so keeping on top of it is the only option for me.

PS Demon dad your car colour looks very similar to mine, I must check the colour on the documents,



Edited by natben on Monday 24th September 19:13

PuffsBack

2,442 posts

249 months

Monday 24th September 2012
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What happened to the main chassis rails at the rear - looks like its taken a hell of a whack as both sides are dented and scraped in the same place?

ridds

8,366 posts

268 months

Monday 24th September 2012
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PuffsBack said:
What happened to the main chassis rails at the rear - looks like its taken a hell of a whack as both sides are dented and scraped in the same place?
Previous owner jacking it up I guess.

I also hate the OP.... wink

spongy

2,236 posts

185 months

Monday 24th September 2012
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by feck thats clean......even up to spongy's high level of ocd

cerdad

288 posts

225 months

Monday 24th September 2012
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1997/8 were the worst,mine you can peel it off with your finger nail

Mark.

11,104 posts

300 months

Monday 24th September 2012
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Jhonno

6,430 posts

165 months

Monday 24th September 2012
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Hmm.. I should do mine.. Don't know if I want to now..

natben

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2,748 posts

255 months

Monday 24th September 2012
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PuffsBack said:
What happened to the main chassis rails at the rear - looks like its taken a hell of a whack as both sides are dented and scraped in the same place?
Last owner jacking it up I'm afraid!! wasn't me honestwhistle




I now put a rag between the chassis and the Jack...........

skidoo

400 posts

214 months

Monday 24th September 2012
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is it me or is that got the early type oil system with both oil pipes coming out n/s of the block ,only saying this as i have a mate with a 2003 and his pipes are the sameconfused

natben

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255 months

Monday 24th September 2012
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All Speed Six engines have these two pipes coming out the block.
One goes to the oil tank and one goes to the oil cooler.

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cerb4.5lee

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204 months

Monday 24th September 2012
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Is there room for me! mine was a 98 car & the chassis was questionable. smile