ITS DRIVING ME MAD
ITS DRIVING ME MAD
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big eds

Original Poster:

1,996 posts

260 months

Tuesday 7th September 2004
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WHEN I BRAKE IN TRAFFIC MY BRAKES SOUND LIKE A BUS,I HAVE CHANGE ALL THE PADS STILL THE SAME,TOOK OUT THE REAR PADS SANDED THE EDGES STILL THE SAME,THE DISCS LOOK OK NO EDGES I HAVE HADE THE PADS OUT ABOUT 20 TIMES ITS F@@KING ME. HELP PLEASE.

spslward

160 posts

271 months

Tuesday 7th September 2004
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I know it's not terribly helpful but....

'they all do that sir'

:/

SXS 

2,068 posts

263 months

Tuesday 7th September 2004
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Fella, they're large discs and callipers....
They are prone to this, ever been down a race track?

Ok, "they dont all do that" sir, mine are living proof, but now and again, when really - and I mean reallyyyy heated up, they do squeel...

I suppose you've tried all the copper putty on the back of the pads and greasing up a few thins here and there....

the only thing I can recommend, is get a sports exhaust fitted and de-catt her, you'll never hear the squeel again!

TVR Slag's Bil

5,282 posts

269 months

Tuesday 7th September 2004
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The pads have a very thin shim fitted to the outside face. I think it’s made of some sort of composite material. This is then bonded to the back of the pad. I guess it is designed to absorb some of the vibration of the pad on the disc.

Ultimate 'Avoid Squeal' Set up

New disc's
New Mintex 1144 rear pads
45 degree Chamfer in the leading edge of the pad
Anti squeal shim bonded to the back of the pad
Copper grease on the other side of the anti squeal shim
Pad held in place with the two standard split pins
Over these pins the return springs are fitted.

The return springs compress as the brake is applied then, when released the springs push the pad away from the disc stopping it catching on the disc as it rotates. This is supposed to stop the Clatter.

I understand that these springs were only fitted to early Cerbs. Indeed most of them have, most likely, corroded away or been lost on the garage floor. If I can I will post a piccy of the rear brakes tomorrow, right now I am stuck in work.

big eds

Original Poster:

1,996 posts

260 months

Tuesday 7th September 2004
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[quote=SXS ]Fella, they're large discs and callipers....
They are prone to this, ever been down a race track?

Ok, "they dont all do that" sir, mine are living proof, but now and again, when really - and I mean reallyyyy heated up, they do squeel...

I suppose you've tried all the copper putty on the back of the pads and greasing up a few thins here and there....

the only thing I can recommend, is get a sports exhaust fitted and de-catt her, you'll never hear the squeel again! [/quote]

THANKS I HAVE A SPORTS EXHAUST AND ITS DE-CATTED

trooper1212

9,457 posts

275 months

Tuesday 7th September 2004
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big eds said:


THANKS I HAVE A SPORTS EXHAUST AND ITS DE-CATTED


I THINK WE GUESSED THAT!

kojak69

4,547 posts

276 months

Tuesday 7th September 2004
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TVR Slag's Bil said:


The pads have a very thin shim fitted to the outside face. I think it’s made of some sort of composite material. This is then bonded to the back of the pad. I guess it is designed to absorb some of the vibration of the pad on the disc.

Ultimate 'Avoid Squeal' Set up

New disc's
New Mintex 1144 rear pads
45 degree Chamfer in the leading edge of the pad
Anti squeal shim bonded to the back of the pad
Copper grease on the other side of the anti squeal shim
Pad held in place with the two standard split pins
Over these pins the return springs are fitted.

The return springs compress as the brake is applied then, when released the springs push the pad away from the disc stopping it catching on the disc as it rotates. This is supposed to stop the Clatter.

I understand that these springs were only fitted to early Cerbs. Indeed most of them have, most likely, corroded away or been lost on the garage floor. If I can I will post a piccy of the rear brakes tomorrow, right now I am stuck in work.



Mine is the same....except i only have the springs on one of the brakes. They STILL squeal like f**k. I thought i'd stopped it by doing the above, but it didn't last. Pi$$es me off too. I'll try different pads next time.

>> Edited by kojak69 on Tuesday 7th September 22:09

NJW 77

17,065 posts

261 months

Tuesday 7th September 2004
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trooper1212 said:

big eds said:


THANKS I HAVE A SPORTS EXHAUST AND ITS DE-CATTED



I THINK WE GUESSED THAT!


SXS 

2,068 posts

263 months

Tuesday 7th September 2004
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big eds said:

THANKS I HAVE A SPORTS EXHAUST AND ITS DE-CATTED


Damn!!!

Must be one hell of a squeel then!

If you're already making all that noise, whats wrong with a little bit of squeel huh?

big eds

Original Poster:

1,996 posts

260 months

Tuesday 7th September 2004
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[quote=SXS ]
big eds said:

THANKS I HAVE A SPORTS EXHAUST AND ITS DE-CATTED



Damn!!!

Must be one hell of a squeel then!

If you're already making all that noise, whats wrong with a little bit of squeel huh? [/quote]

big eds

Original Poster:

1,996 posts

260 months

Tuesday 7th September 2004
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spoke to the bloke at EBC he said change all the pads to red ones anyone tried this,just dont want to wast anymore money and time.If they all make a noise ill have to live with it,never made a sound when i bought it.

SXS 

2,068 posts

263 months

Tuesday 7th September 2004
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Screw it, wait till next service and get the indy (i hope you dont use dealers) to give the brakes extra tlc.... joo is good with the tlc part... but phone-phobic to the max!

big eds

Original Poster:

1,996 posts

260 months

Tuesday 7th September 2004
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[quote=SXS ]Screw it, wait till next service and get the indy (i hope you dont use dealers) to give the brakes extra tlc.... joo is good with the tlc part... but phone-phobic to the max! [/quote]

copper grease on the discs might cure my prob or loud music.

SXS 

2,068 posts

263 months

Tuesday 7th September 2004
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Thats a start I suppose - but dont get carried away over a noise fella. Spend the money elsewhere....

Just put that Michael Bolton CD on, and yank the volume up.... you'll be fine

big eds

Original Poster:

1,996 posts

260 months

Wednesday 8th September 2004
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had my discs skimed today and still makeing a f''king noise what a wank and a wast of money.Ill have to go to plan z.

stag

469 posts

288 months

Wednesday 8th September 2004
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Live with it as I did for years when I had mine.

The brakes are bastards

You wait until they squeel even when you hav'nt got your foot on the bloody brake pedal.

I can honestly say that I really hated them!

>> Edited by stag on Wednesday 8th September 21:54

AndyTather

73 posts

295 months

Wednesday 8th September 2004
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stag said:

You wait until they squeel even when you hav'nt got your foot on the bloody brake pedal.


Yep know that one well

NJW 77

17,065 posts

261 months

Wednesday 8th September 2004
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stag said:

You wait until they squeel even when you hav'nt got your foot on the bloody brake pedal.


Mine do that, only way to stop it is slightly touch the pedal. Too much and they squeal again. Or of course, press the loud pedal more

swindorski46

1,017 posts

306 months

Wednesday 8th September 2004
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Mine are so bad it makes driving the car dangerous.

I try to do all I can to avoid touching the brakes, especially in towns and around pubs with beer gardens.

I've just bought some copper grease but haven't got round to using it, yet. Hope it works.

TVR Slag's Bil

5,282 posts

269 months

Wednesday 8th September 2004
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Really pound the brakes hard for a bit, see if they do it when they are hot.