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Looking at buying an ajp cerb at some point and would like to get an original unmolested example. I notice many of these have had a front light upgrade, tuscan seats and spiders. Can anyone give me some pointers as to how I will now what's an upgrade and what is an original, any good reference pages anywhere?
Thanks
Thanks
roseytvr said:
jamieduff1981 said:
The giveaway is the A pillars. Original mk1 Cerberas had carbon fibre cover plates between windscreen and side windows. Mk2 Cerbs had a curvy body coloured A Pillars.
Thanks - does this mean all mark 2 had the light upgrade and spiders?Broadly depends on year and v8 v's s6 for lights. Also wheels.
Vee8ight said:
jamieduff1981 said:
The giveaway is the A pillars. Original mk1 Cerberas had carbon fibre cover plates between windscreen and side windows. Mk2 Cerbs had a curvy body coloured A Pillars.
Are you sure as mine has Matt black covers and is original except spiders
Spot the difference!
Hi Ian
There are a number of differences between older and newer Cerberas. Some of which are:-
1. The older Cerbs had carbon fibre coloured A Panels as well as a carbon fibre coloured panel along the bottom edge of the rear screen.
2. The older Cerbs had orange coloured front indicator lenses and orange coloured side indicator lenses too. The newer models have the opaque white colour lenses at the front and on the sides.
3. Generally it's the newer Cerbs that have the sloping rear number plate with 2 small lights above it in the recess to illuminate it. The older model has a flush mounted backlit number plate which is actually a bit opaque to allow the light through.
4. The newer Cerbs have spider alloys fitted as standard. The TVR logo on the one spoke should always be on the spoke opposite the tyre valve. The logo is often missing or on the wrong spoke if the wheels have been refurbed.
5. The brake calipers on newer Cerbs are different to the older ones. Even though both have AP items as standard they do differ and it's easier to tell on the fronts. Older model Cerbs have the front discs attached to a rotor which is attached to the hub. Newer Cerbs have no rotor as standard. Newer Cerbs have drilled, vented discs on front and rear as standard.
6. There are 3 types of headlamps on Cerbs. Firstly, the single headlamp unit then the pod style where the 2 headlamps and a small sidelight are mounted in a pod which in turn is mounted in the wing of the car. Finally, there are the twin blended headlamps and small sidelight which are mounted directly in the front wings. Any car with 2 or 4 lights in each of their wings did not leave the factory that way. I have seen examples of both.
7. Newer Cerbs have Tuscan style front seats as standard with the headrest built into the seat itself. The headrest is also built in to the rear seats.
8. Newer Cerbs do not have the hessian style roof lining and door card covers. Roof lining is alcantara as standard and door panel covers are usually leather or imitation leather(vinyl)
9. Early Cerbs had carbon fibre effect air boxes later car have plain black ones.
10. The black border around the windscreen is smaller on later cars.
11. Newer Cerbs have a different fuseboard layout in the drivers side boot.
All the above are how the cars left the factory.
I hope these few pointers are of some help.
Any questions, ask on here as it is a multitude of information with many people willing to share what they know.
I am ready to stand corrected if anyone finds this info wrong or inaccurate.
People may even want to add things to the list.
Sorry for the lack of pictures as they make things much clearer.
Regards
Simon
There are a number of differences between older and newer Cerberas. Some of which are:-
1. The older Cerbs had carbon fibre coloured A Panels as well as a carbon fibre coloured panel along the bottom edge of the rear screen.
2. The older Cerbs had orange coloured front indicator lenses and orange coloured side indicator lenses too. The newer models have the opaque white colour lenses at the front and on the sides.
3. Generally it's the newer Cerbs that have the sloping rear number plate with 2 small lights above it in the recess to illuminate it. The older model has a flush mounted backlit number plate which is actually a bit opaque to allow the light through.
4. The newer Cerbs have spider alloys fitted as standard. The TVR logo on the one spoke should always be on the spoke opposite the tyre valve. The logo is often missing or on the wrong spoke if the wheels have been refurbed.
5. The brake calipers on newer Cerbs are different to the older ones. Even though both have AP items as standard they do differ and it's easier to tell on the fronts. Older model Cerbs have the front discs attached to a rotor which is attached to the hub. Newer Cerbs have no rotor as standard. Newer Cerbs have drilled, vented discs on front and rear as standard.
6. There are 3 types of headlamps on Cerbs. Firstly, the single headlamp unit then the pod style where the 2 headlamps and a small sidelight are mounted in a pod which in turn is mounted in the wing of the car. Finally, there are the twin blended headlamps and small sidelight which are mounted directly in the front wings. Any car with 2 or 4 lights in each of their wings did not leave the factory that way. I have seen examples of both.
7. Newer Cerbs have Tuscan style front seats as standard with the headrest built into the seat itself. The headrest is also built in to the rear seats.
8. Newer Cerbs do not have the hessian style roof lining and door card covers. Roof lining is alcantara as standard and door panel covers are usually leather or imitation leather(vinyl)
9. Early Cerbs had carbon fibre effect air boxes later car have plain black ones.
10. The black border around the windscreen is smaller on later cars.
11. Newer Cerbs have a different fuseboard layout in the drivers side boot.
All the above are how the cars left the factory.
I hope these few pointers are of some help.
Any questions, ask on here as it is a multitude of information with many people willing to share what they know.
I am ready to stand corrected if anyone finds this info wrong or inaccurate.
People may even want to add things to the list.
Sorry for the lack of pictures as they make things much clearer.
Regards
Simon
Edited by SimonKD on Thursday 31st January 12:24
To add some dates to the above.
1996 – 1999 all Cerbs had carbon A pillars, Big round head lights and fiesta rear lights. 4.2s and speed 6’s had 16” OZ wheels and 4.5s had 17” RL7’s.
2000-2001 all Cerbs had the colour coded A pillars, Tuscan seats and updated pod style rear light clusters. Only 4.5’s had Tuscan style headlights but were unblended. 4.2s and speed 6’s still had big round lights. 4.5s had 18” RLs for a short time in 2000, 18” spiders were later offered as an option on all models.
The final changes came in gradually. At some point between 2002 -2003 all Cerbs got recessed rear number plates, painted rear pod light clusters, blended Tuscan style headlights and 18” Spiders.
1996 – 1999 all Cerbs had carbon A pillars, Big round head lights and fiesta rear lights. 4.2s and speed 6’s had 16” OZ wheels and 4.5s had 17” RL7’s.
2000-2001 all Cerbs had the colour coded A pillars, Tuscan seats and updated pod style rear light clusters. Only 4.5’s had Tuscan style headlights but were unblended. 4.2s and speed 6’s still had big round lights. 4.5s had 18” RLs for a short time in 2000, 18” spiders were later offered as an option on all models.
The final changes came in gradually. At some point between 2002 -2003 all Cerbs got recessed rear number plates, painted rear pod light clusters, blended Tuscan style headlights and 18” Spiders.
In true TVR style mine is a mixture of old & New.It's also one of the few sp6 that left the factory in 2000 with old style round headlights & new rear light clusters.It has the mk 2 roof ridges,old headlights,New seats,old roof lining,New rear lights,old rotors, & god knows what else!
DAVEY DEE said:
In true TVR style mine is a mixture of old & New.It's also one of the few sp6 that left the factory in 2000 with old style round headlights & new rear light clusters.It has the mk 2 roof ridges,old headlights,New seats,old roof lining,New rear lights,old rotors, & god knows what else!
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