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dswiscrazy

Original Poster:

278 posts

166 months

Sunday 17th March 2013
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my SLAVE CYLINDER gone on way home from the meet at stockyard manage to get her home and in the garage

Jasper Gilder

2,166 posts

297 months

Sunday 17th March 2013
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You have to get the bellhousing open to change it - usually means the clutch is on the way so may as well do it at the same time..

ukkid35

6,395 posts

197 months

Sunday 17th March 2013
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Clutch and Slave are not strictly related, so although it may be a good idea to replace the clutch when fixing the slave, it may not be absolutely necessary. It really depends whether you are doing the job yourself or whether you are paying £50 p/hr.

I 'fixed' the slave twice, and then had to replace the clutch shortly after, not a result. Now I have a spare clutch that only cost £250, but the one in the car is only 6 months old, one day it will pay for itself (as long as I don't trash the car first).

dswiscrazy

Original Poster:

278 posts

166 months

Sunday 17th March 2013
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I do all the work myself (nice dry garage) but 250 for a clutch where from.

kevin63

4,661 posts

277 months

Sunday 17th March 2013
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That's a bugger, that may explain your gear change on the M18 you talked about.
Hope you get it sorted quick and cheap.

ukkid35

6,395 posts

197 months

Sunday 17th March 2013
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dswiscrazy said:
I do all the work myself (nice dry garage) but 250 for a clutch where from.
aBay - used with about 200 miles on it, and looks genuine to me. Too good to resist even though I'd just replaced my clutch.

v8chimmy

189 posts

187 months

Sunday 17th March 2013
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dswiscrazy said:
my SLAVE CYLINDER gone on way home from the meet at stockyard manage to get her home and in the garage
At least it didn't go two days into a two week holiday in France!!

Only took the recovery people two weeks to get the car back!, had visions of a
ferris bueller type scenario with the recovery people enjoying Paris at break neck
speeds.

Hope you fix it!

ukkid35

6,395 posts

197 months

Sunday 17th March 2013
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Tottaly agree a slave failure is a real show-stopper. Preventative maintenance is the key: a standard slave is a liability, an RP slave is a more expensive ( and hopefully a more reliable) liability

v8chimmy

189 posts

187 months

Sunday 17th March 2013
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ukkid35 said:
Tottaly agree a slave failure is a real show-stopper. Preventative maintenance is the key: a standard slave is a liability, an RP slave is a more expensive ( and hopefully a more reliable) liability
I think the RP unit is an improvement over the standard item, although I think
that design could also be improved. Anyone changing the slave themselves should take
great care when assembling it, use plently of grease and ensure the seals aren't
damaged when putting it back together.

Plenty of stories here of some slaves lasting only a few thousand miles, possibly due
to the way they were installed. I check the fluid level every month, which is a good
indicator that it's on it's way out, although mine emptied into the car park overnight..........which was nice!

Supateg

799 posts

166 months

Sunday 17th March 2013
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Good to meet you today dswiscrazy.
You have my sympathy,
At least you wont have the labour costs.
You will hopefully be all sorted for the better weather,

Regards
Craig (Blue 4.5)

kevin63

4,661 posts

277 months

Monday 18th March 2013
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Your car didn't half sound go Craig, colour isn't bad too wink

Supateg

799 posts

166 months

Monday 18th March 2013
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I think it's the best colour, don't you agree Kev? ;-}
Amazing, Jap cars with a loud exhaust are called boy racers
Tvr without silencers are acceptable!
This was the 2nd shakedown after a front end strip & fettle. - and it rained!
,

anonymous-user

78 months

Monday 18th March 2013
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ukkid35 said:
aBay - used with about 200 miles on it, and looks genuine to me. Too good to resist even though I'd just replaced my clutch.
Oh you bought it....I emailed the seller, forgot to check for reply, chased it up again and it had sold...ya swine!! Its mine!!

esso

1,849 posts

241 months

Monday 18th March 2013
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Are you sure its the slave cylinder that`s failed? Before you take it all apart i would try bleeding the clutch to see if the situation is improved.If you cannot bleed the clutch it maybe the master cylinder seals that have gone.If you find fluid under the car,yes the slave has gone,if you find fluid in the drivers footwell...its the master cylinder.

dswiscrazy

Original Poster:

278 posts

166 months

Monday 18th March 2013
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yes try bleeding it but fluid under car and 3 bolt missing from bellhouse too
good to meet you to craig love the car but sorry red the better colour .
she jack up hope to start strip down this week

Supateg

799 posts

166 months

Monday 18th March 2013
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Keep us posted on your progress mate.

Mine was done by the previous owner due to clutch fingers and they used 5.1 silicone brake fluid on the refit, don't know if this helps the seal life or not.
Anyone with any ideas to prolong the life of the seals on the cerb?
Is it heat? Reaction to the fluid / poor seals or poor engineering?

kevin63

4,661 posts

277 months

Monday 18th March 2013
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I heard that changing (bleeding until fresh) the fluid a couple of times a year helps prolong the slaves life. I was told to use 5.1 by one place and not by another, so it would be interesting to see what others think on this.

ukkid35

6,395 posts

197 months

Monday 18th March 2013
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djstevec said:
Oh you bought it....I emailed the seller, forgot to check for reply, chased it up again and it had sold...ya swine!! Its mine!!
Ha! I knew I'd get one over you eventually!

portzi

2,325 posts

199 months

Tuesday 19th March 2013
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kevin63 said:
I heard that changing (bleeding until fresh) the fluid a couple of times a year helps prolong the slaves life. I was told to use 5.1 by one place and not by another, so it would be interesting to see what others think on this.
Totally agree Kev, preventative maintance and a good reliable garage to do the correct service checks at 6000, 12000 on our cars, smile. Unless you have the knowledge to do your own of course.

jamieduff1981

8,092 posts

164 months

Tuesday 19th March 2013
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kevin63 said:
I heard that changing (bleeding until fresh) the fluid a couple of times a year helps prolong the slaves life. I was told to use 5.1 by one place and not by another, so it would be interesting to see what others think on this.
It depends entirely on what the seals are actually made from. When I remember I'll try phoning RP and asking them what spec their seals are and if they don't know, where they buy them from.

The seal material in the master and slave obviously both need to be compatible with the fluid used.

I'd really like to know exactly what polymer the seals are made from. I know my last set were destroyed by a mechanic using the wrong type of grease on assembly. The seals which had been in contact with the grease had swollen and dissolved.

I did my uni thesis on solvent induced swelling of polymers - it's a subject I'd hoped never to see again, and certainly not on my car!