Cerberas near Worcester
Discussion
Evening all. A request, if there's any kind Cerbera owners in or near Worcester that wouldn't mind showing me their pride and joy sometime? I'm looking to buy one but in no real rush and doing all my homework first. To be more specific, I'm looking at either a 4.0 or a 4.2 (with a currently totally open mind) as the budget just won't stretch to a 4.5.
Matt
Matt
Im down the road in Exeter but there must be somebody closer....you can come down to view mine....but it is a trip.you will know the right car when you see it i looked at many in my travels....my budget did go up as the ones in my original price range just did nothing for me.......hence the one i have now
Surely value is more subjective than that. Speed Sixes are cheaper as they are less desirable in the Cerbera. If youre not worried about which engine and want to buy on age and condidtion then you'll no doubt get a better condition / newer SS. Personally I would prefer to pay more for a V8, but each to their own and this has been done to death on here before.
Im in Bristol if you ever want to pop down and have a look. I have also owned a Speed Six. nothing wrong with it other than I preferred the V8.
Im in Bristol if you ever want to pop down and have a look. I have also owned a Speed Six. nothing wrong with it other than I preferred the V8.
popegregory said:
Cheers Obi, as I said, its with an open mind so I'd like to do some thorough homework. You're entirely right, reading through here (and anywhere else for that matter), opinions are split six of one and half a dozen of the other.
The prices and price differentials have evolved and changed over the years. I have been a casual watcher of the prices for about 15 years. It is still true that identical condition and age cerbs with S6 engines are worth less than 4.2, worth less than 4.5 and worth less than 4.5RR. Hi Popegregory,
I'm further away than most but I wanted to saw "welcome" to this particular part of the forum and wish you well in your research and car hunting.
I'm quite sure you'll go in to this with your eyes wide open, and whilst everyone has a budget, myself included, I just wanted to spell out what that means incase your research sways you too far from reality in either direction:
1) Purchase price of car - condition and engine dependent. Age getting towards an irrelevance apart from the very latest ones which still have a larger attraction to certain buyers. The condition of the car does matter, but that doesn't mean an example in need of some TLC should be avoided necessarily?
2) Maintenance costs - you'll have come across the servicing prices for these cars. It's pretty expensive, and there's more to Cerberas than an annual service. Look up the definition of "niggle" on here. Cerberas seem to be able to hit you witha couple of hundred quid here and fifty quid there whenever they feel like it. When you think "budget", either be able to backfill your Cerbera running costs fund quickly or accept that you may need to take it off the road for a while if you need to save up for parts and/or labour.
3) Long term improvement costs - everyone here and in other TVR model forums will talk about checking the condition of the chassis etc, and that is very important. It's also important to realise however that these are aging cars and if it hasn't had it's body removed and the chassis refurbished already then it's going to need it done sooner or later. My personal view is that TVRs and Cerberas in particular are not cars to be bought on condition then run down. Obviously a nicer car is far easier to feel proud of, and that is very important to offset the frustration that can come with a TVR, but in my personal view, the responsible TVR owner puts a bit aside to pay for that chassis refurb, interior retrim, full respray or engine rebuild such that the very rare car that is the TVR Cerbera isn't simply scrapped when it needs a lot of work and nobody wants it in that state. Cerberas aren't really depreciating much if at all any more, so the money you'd lose on an M3 or whatever should be saved and used to treat the Cerbera to some newness at some point along the way.
All the above is my personal perspective on owning one of these and I'm sure I'll be challenged on the above by someone far more sensible than I am and who is capable of viewing the car as a more disposable item.
You may get lucky, but these cars generally cost a lot to own and run so be prepared for it. When I was researching this time last year I kept reading about an average £2~3k per year and like many others couldn't imagine what it would all go on, with a £750 service one year and £350 the next. Add in a couple of hundred for miscellaneous stuff here and there but how could it possibly get into thousands??? Trust me - it does. I've owned mine since January and have spent almost £1600 on parts inc a car cover, 4 new tyres, clutch master cylinder, clutch slave cylinder, leather repair kits, Leven wiper arms and blades, coolant, oil, new relays, new steering wheel button stickers and a tonne more cleaning stuff than I already had. That's excluding petrol and buying new child seats which fit the car...
You know what though, I still grin when I see it parked on my driveway, and when groups at work have finished taking the mickey about reliability they shuffle over one by one on the rare days I bring it in and sheepishly ask if I'll take them out at lunchtime in it. It's an absolutely awesome car, and easily the most rewarding car I've ever driven. Even my mother, the world's least interested driver who only ever asks why I waste so much money and why don't I buy a sensible car has started to see the appeal. She doesn't want to drive it, but all her friends and colleagues seem to know about the purple TVR.
Go on - you'll love it! (Your bank manager may not)
I'm further away than most but I wanted to saw "welcome" to this particular part of the forum and wish you well in your research and car hunting.
I'm quite sure you'll go in to this with your eyes wide open, and whilst everyone has a budget, myself included, I just wanted to spell out what that means incase your research sways you too far from reality in either direction:
1) Purchase price of car - condition and engine dependent. Age getting towards an irrelevance apart from the very latest ones which still have a larger attraction to certain buyers. The condition of the car does matter, but that doesn't mean an example in need of some TLC should be avoided necessarily?
2) Maintenance costs - you'll have come across the servicing prices for these cars. It's pretty expensive, and there's more to Cerberas than an annual service. Look up the definition of "niggle" on here. Cerberas seem to be able to hit you witha couple of hundred quid here and fifty quid there whenever they feel like it. When you think "budget", either be able to backfill your Cerbera running costs fund quickly or accept that you may need to take it off the road for a while if you need to save up for parts and/or labour.
3) Long term improvement costs - everyone here and in other TVR model forums will talk about checking the condition of the chassis etc, and that is very important. It's also important to realise however that these are aging cars and if it hasn't had it's body removed and the chassis refurbished already then it's going to need it done sooner or later. My personal view is that TVRs and Cerberas in particular are not cars to be bought on condition then run down. Obviously a nicer car is far easier to feel proud of, and that is very important to offset the frustration that can come with a TVR, but in my personal view, the responsible TVR owner puts a bit aside to pay for that chassis refurb, interior retrim, full respray or engine rebuild such that the very rare car that is the TVR Cerbera isn't simply scrapped when it needs a lot of work and nobody wants it in that state. Cerberas aren't really depreciating much if at all any more, so the money you'd lose on an M3 or whatever should be saved and used to treat the Cerbera to some newness at some point along the way.
All the above is my personal perspective on owning one of these and I'm sure I'll be challenged on the above by someone far more sensible than I am and who is capable of viewing the car as a more disposable item.
You may get lucky, but these cars generally cost a lot to own and run so be prepared for it. When I was researching this time last year I kept reading about an average £2~3k per year and like many others couldn't imagine what it would all go on, with a £750 service one year and £350 the next. Add in a couple of hundred for miscellaneous stuff here and there but how could it possibly get into thousands??? Trust me - it does. I've owned mine since January and have spent almost £1600 on parts inc a car cover, 4 new tyres, clutch master cylinder, clutch slave cylinder, leather repair kits, Leven wiper arms and blades, coolant, oil, new relays, new steering wheel button stickers and a tonne more cleaning stuff than I already had. That's excluding petrol and buying new child seats which fit the car...
You know what though, I still grin when I see it parked on my driveway, and when groups at work have finished taking the mickey about reliability they shuffle over one by one on the rare days I bring it in and sheepishly ask if I'll take them out at lunchtime in it. It's an absolutely awesome car, and easily the most rewarding car I've ever driven. Even my mother, the world's least interested driver who only ever asks why I waste so much money and why don't I buy a sensible car has started to see the appeal. She doesn't want to drive it, but all her friends and colleagues seem to know about the purple TVR.
Go on - you'll love it! (Your bank manager may not)
Hello Greg ?
Sorry, in a bit of a rush
BUT
I bought mine from David Gerald, Inkberrow.
They were open to negotiation and in the end I bought a peach.
They have also been one of the few who have promoted their TVR
commitment in recent (difficult) years.
- and they do a lot of racing
Give Doug a ring.
Sorry, in a bit of a rush
BUT
I bought mine from David Gerald, Inkberrow.
They were open to negotiation and in the end I bought a peach.
They have also been one of the few who have promoted their TVR
commitment in recent (difficult) years.
- and they do a lot of racing
Give Doug a ring.
Edited by Mr Cerbera on Wednesday 24th April 20:05
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