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Tang Soo Tim

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506 posts

193 months

Tuesday 4th June 2013
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Off there in the morning to give the Cerb a major geo and handling sort out, I've heard very good reports about them including by brother who had his Noble track car setup there.

There quoting 10 - 12 hours to get it sorted ! Going to be an interesting day to say the least !

Anybody been ?

GasMunkey

5,697 posts

203 months

Tuesday 4th June 2013
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10-12hours is a complete piss take.....

Before any one wants to argue that is reasonable and I'm talking total bks, yes I am in the trade yes I work on tvr's and yes I've been doing 4 wheel alignments for 11years

FarmyardPants

4,303 posts

242 months

Tuesday 4th June 2013
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er...okay.

TuxMan

9,011 posts

262 months

Tuesday 4th June 2013
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Hope all goes well Bro , you are in for a very interesting day , so much more than just a 4 wheel alignment !!!!

Tux

ShiDevil

2,293 posts

198 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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Any Monkey can do a 4 Wheel Alignment tongue out they do indeed do more, have a good day Tang Soo Tim smile

Jhonno

6,430 posts

165 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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GasMunkey said:
10-12hours is a complete piss take.....

Before any one wants to argue that is reasonable and I'm talking total bks, yes I am in the trade yes I work on tvr's and yes I've been doing 4 wheel alignments for 11years
Ride heights/corner weighting etc included..?

GasMunkey

5,697 posts

203 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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ShiDevil said:
Any Monkey can do a 4 Wheel Alignment tongue out they do indeed do more, have a good day Tang Soo Tim smile
Do tell

spitfire4v8

4,021 posts

205 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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I'm very interested to know how they spend nearly 2 days on a car. Do they have their own car/damper shaker rig or do they individually test each damper on a damper dyno to make sure they are a matched pair across both axles? or test track and go out and assess the performance/predictability of changes they make and then gradually evolve the car to their satisfaction, then fine tune that based on allowing the owner to drive the car on the test facility, finely honing it until the owner is satisfied? For 12 hours I would hope it's something like that!

ukkid35

6,392 posts

197 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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Have you done anything in preparation for your visit?

It would make sense to have replaced any parts known to be worn first, otherwise a significant part of your bill will be for replacing track rods, drag link bushes etc. that you could have done yourself - assuming you work on you car.

Tang Soo Tim

Original Poster:

506 posts

193 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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spitfire4v8 said:
I'm very interested to know how they spend nearly 2 days on a car. Do they have their own car/damper shaker rig or do they individually test each damper on a damper dyno to make sure they are a matched pair across both axles? or test track and go out and assess the performance/predictability of changes they make and then gradually evolve the car to their satisfaction, then fine tune that based on allowing the owner to drive the car on the test facility, finely honing it until the owner is satisfied? For 12 hours I would hope it's something like that!
All of the above smile

They have there own shaker/damper rig, very strange watching car moving about ! All shocks are being balanced, long test drive with Chris first thing on motorway, B roads, cobble streets speed bumps. hands off steering wheel testing movement of car in straight line and under acceleration / braking ect.

His description of car was it just felt loose which is a great way of putting it, as my description was it just doesn't feel planted.

Long conversation then about my thoughts on cars handling and how I wanted it to handle.
The car had previously been setup last year by a known dealer but has never impressed me with the way it handles, always feels a little skittish and never felt confident with it.

Car is being setup for fast road use with road tests through the day.

All I can say at this stage is this is no simple geo setup !! I'm impressed already and looking forward to seeing how the day progresses, I'm sat watching Chris work through window in waiting room and he's not stood around with his fingers up his ......

Fantastic chap with great knowledge, at the end of the day it comes down to the difference when I drive the car home but I have no doubt in my mind there is going to be major improvements !

New protech twin adjustables all round with all bushes ect sound

Jhonno

6,430 posts

165 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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cool

spitfire4v8

4,021 posts

205 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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Does indeed sound 12 hours worth then. Shaker rigs arent cheap. Thats major investment that is. Excellent

TuxMan

9,011 posts

262 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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It's hard to explain just how much work they do but having been through it and having spent 4 years upgrading my Noble it's the best money I have ever spent !!!!!!!!!

Tux

BliarOut

72,863 posts

263 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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yes same for my Griff, for what you get it's a bloody bargain smile

GasMunkey

5,697 posts

203 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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Looks like alot more than just a geometry, hurry up Tim and take me out for a spin

Tang Soo Tim

Original Poster:

506 posts

193 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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Well what a fantastic day that went wrong after lunch ..... All I needed to do was pop to a local main dealer to pick up a new wishbone I needed that was in stock ....needless to say it wasn't mad

While car was in Chris even turned the front shocks over giving better access to adjusters and is also fitting the new wishbone when it arrives ! All as part of the deal biggrinbiggrin

It's been a huge eye opener regarding setting a car to handle on normal roads and not just setting geo, I took a gamble going there with the extra cost involved but can safely say its been worth every penny.

Ill be heading back over once new wishbone is fitted for last road tests and setup and report back then with photos and my final opinion.

aide

2,278 posts

188 months

Saturday 8th June 2013
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Would be interested to know what spring rates you went with for the the twin adjustable protechs?

Tang Soo Tim

Original Poster:

506 posts

193 months

Saturday 8th June 2013
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aide said:
Would be interested to know what spring rates you went with for the the twin adjustable protechs?
It was start of last year but pretty sure there 400 front, 350 rear

aide

2,278 posts

188 months

Sunday 9th June 2013
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I went for 450f 375r. Should be getting them fitted in a week or so. I've seen 500f 450r mentioned on other threads.. I guess whatever rate you choose depends on what you want to use the car for most?