Failed emisions
Failed emisions
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cerdad

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288 posts

225 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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Took the cerb for an MOT and it failed on emissions, both banks failed as the co2 reading was very very high, limit is 0.200 and it was somewhere in region of 0.600-0.800.

What I find annoying and disconcerting is that last year, about this time I replaced both Throttle position sensors, both cats and both lambda sensors and balanced the banks to one another using a carb balancer. After which it passed the emissions no problems.

Its not like the car has been sat doing nothing, its probably done 3-4k miles this year and has been down to cornwall (400 mile) and to france (800 miles) and generally it doesnt get used on short journeys.

Any thoughts would be helpful!

1998 - 4.5

Edited by cerdad on Tuesday 25th June 16:58

TvrJohn

1,069 posts

279 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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Change to a more TVR friendly MOT station

pmessling

2,313 posts

227 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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either go with the above, i need to find me one

Or try setting it all up again. Things can vibrate and move, and after visiting jules earlier on in the year having replaced my throttle pot sensors the year before one was fooked, so sometimes worth trying the simple things first.

Gazzab

21,581 posts

306 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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Mine flew through on Saturday. Sorry that doesn't help. If emissions are really so different this year then it's worth hooking it up to a laptop and diagnosing and fixing the problem?

N7GTX

8,279 posts

167 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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Normally if the CO reading on any car is around 0.65% then it is an indication of a failed cat(s) if the other readings were good and well within limits.

If the ones you fitted last year were good quality ones they should have 12 months warranty. Genuine ones now have to have an EU marking to ensure compliance with rules brought in 2 years ago.

As a first step try getting the exhaust really hot to light up the cats just before it goes on the the machine - Italian tune up.

Second step, try adding some Cataclean or similar - http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/...
- although if it works, it almost certainly wont next year. Good luck.

Edited by N7GTX on Tuesday 25th June 20:12

GT6k

946 posts

186 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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But its telling you something isn't right, mine makes 0.015-0.022 each time. You could just try clearing the adaptives and see if it fixes it.


GT6k

946 posts

186 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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One last thing is that I hope you gave it a good Italian tune up before the test, I always present mine with the exhaust (and the brakes) glowing.

Vee8ight

734 posts

163 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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Check the mot rules, a Cerb is 0.5%

Vee8ight

734 posts

163 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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cerdad

Original Poster:

288 posts

225 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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Thanks for the replys, I will go out there tomorrow and play have a play, but TBH I spent quite a time making sure everything was 100% last time.

If in the even that the cats have indeed failed, why would they have failed prematurely. I will check the specs tomorrow, and if everything is as I left it last year, it will be interesting to postulate what has caused the failure, As the cats will only have failed as a result of over fueling so theres something a miss somewhere....

Thanks.

ridds

8,366 posts

268 months

Wednesday 26th June 2013
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Are they original cats or aftermarket?

v8chimmy

189 posts

187 months

Wednesday 26th June 2013
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Mine passed with the cats out...........

As others have said, find a friendly garage and give it some on the way there.

The garage I use is a HGV DAF test centre.

ridds

8,366 posts

268 months

Wednesday 26th June 2013
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Be careful what you say on here as you could get a lot of these garages into trouble.

Mr Cerbera

5,148 posts

254 months

Wednesday 26th June 2013
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Car's sulking for only being driven 4K in a year.

hehe

v8chimmy

189 posts

187 months

Wednesday 26th June 2013
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ridds said:
Be careful what you say on here as you could get a lot of these garages into trouble.
Are you suggesting garages are making readings up?

soad

34,382 posts

200 months

Wednesday 26th June 2013
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Mr Cerbera said:
Car's sulking for only being driven 4K in a year.

hehe
laugh

Sorry, OP. getmecoat

Vee8ight

734 posts

163 months

Wednesday 26th June 2013
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v8chimmy said:
ridds said:
Be careful what you say on here as you could get a lot of these garages into trouble.
Are you suggesting garages are making readings up?
Whereas the OP's garage didn't know the mot rules?

ridds

8,366 posts

268 months

Thursday 27th June 2013
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Yep, both can end up with garages being inspected and people's livelihoods affected.

People are always keen to say my garage does this and my car passes there and it has greater repercussions than people think.

If the garage that's being used don't know how to read the guidelines then the car should be taken to somewhere that does. smile

N7GTX

8,279 posts

167 months

Thursday 27th June 2013
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Vee8ight said:
v8chimmy said:
ridds said:
Be careful what you say on here as you could get a lot of these garages into trouble.
Are you suggesting garages are making readings up?
Whereas the OP's garage didn't know the mot rules?
Yes, this is confusing as the pre MOT print will tell the testing garage of any guidelines and testing standards for a particular car?

And yes, some garages do put the emissions pipe into a another car parked next to it to make sure it passes. Seen it many times in my work.