should i buy a 4.2 or 4.5 cerbera or a tuscan
Discussion
UpTheIron said:
For that money, get the 4.2.
What you should do however, is save another £10k, buy a Tuscan for about £25k and save the rest for running costs, chocolate fingers etc...
Isn't the Straight 6 Tuscan engine much less reliable than the AJPV8 ? - or have they now sorted the earlier problems I read about ?
55jnj said:
For that money, get the 4.2.
What you should do however, is save another £10k, buy a Tuscan for about £25k and save the rest for running costs, chocolate fingers etc...
Isn't the Straight 6 Tuscan engine much less reliable than the AJPV8 ? - or have they now sorted the earlier problems I read about ?
JSG did a thread in the speed 6 forum, out off the sample there was something like a 40% failure rate overall, with a much greater possibility if the engine is pre 2003. Make of that what you will, it's worth a read
As to the original question, then if you're after a reliable car that you won't have to spend major amounts on and costs you £20k, then don't buy a TVR. If you have to buy a TVR, buy a Rover V8 model. If you have to buy a Cerbera, buy a sorted 4.2 for £16k and pocket the change for any repairs.
Cerbs are something you have to want outright, rather than being the better choice of a few possibilities, otherwise you can end up resenting their foibles...
trooper1212 said:
UpTheIron said:
For that money, get the 4.2.
What you should do however, is save another £10k, buy a Tuscan for about £25k and save the rest for running costs, chocolate fingers etc...
Isn't the Straight 6 Tuscan engine much less reliable than the AJPV8 ? - or have they now sorted the earlier problems I read about ?
JSG did a thread in the speed 6 forum, out off the sample there was something like a 40% failure rate overall, with a much greater possibility if the engine is pre 2003. Make of that what you will, it's worth a read
As to the original question, then if you're after a reliable car that you won't have to spend major amounts on and costs you £20k, then don't buy a TVR. If you have to buy a TVR, buy a Rover V8 model. If you have to buy a Cerbera, buy a sorted 4.2 for £16k and pocket the change for any repairs.
Cerbs are something you have to want outright, rather than being the better choice of a few possibilities, otherwise you can end up resenting their foibles...
How about a '00 M5 with BMW warranty (which covers engine and even clutch failure). It won't be as fast as a TVR (even with 400hp) but it'll certainly fit the criteria!
D
Do you think a cerbra 4.2 with nitrons 30,ooo miles .double head lights 18" spiders ,in the nice blue,with cream interior ,ftvr service history ,sports exhaust and green filters IS WORTH £19500
MINT CONDITION
WOULD YOU BUY IT?? IS IT WORTH THE MONEY? OR IS IT EXPENSIVE?
CHEERS FOR HELP
MINT CONDITION
WOULD YOU BUY IT?? IS IT WORTH THE MONEY? OR IS IT EXPENSIVE?
CHEERS FOR HELP
mitsubishievo - see my last post on www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=130598&f=6&h=0
'nuf said.
S.
'nuf said.
S.
sethlj said:
mitsubishievo - see my last post on www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=130598&f=6&h=0
'nuf said.
S.
Not really 'nuff said though as it's often a case of different strokes for different folks
. I have driven my friends EvoVIII FQ300 in anger a couple of times and although I have alway enjoyed it I prefer my car in every single way that counts.
Mines an early 4.2 (1996 P) and feels much faster in a straight line and in the dry I would fancy my chances staying with an Evo down most B roads
. Great fun cars both and I know the Evo is less hassle on a daily basis but when going for the rev limiter in 3rd I know which I prefer by a mile!
. Bazza what year is the 4.2? I would consider that a good price if it's in good condition due to the mod's (Nitron's wheels etc).
Good luck on your search
. Duncan
mitsubishievo said:
Do you think a cerbra 4.2 with nitrons 30,ooo miles .double head lights 18" spiders ,in the nice blue,with cream interior ,ftvr service history ,sports exhaust and green filters IS WORTH £19500
MINT CONDITION
WOULD YOU BUY IT?? IS IT WORTH THE MONEY? OR IS IT EXPENSIVE?
CHEERS FOR HELP
That sounds very much like my old car. It's not in Sunderland is it by any chance?
_dj_ said:
mitsubishievo said:
YE it is in sunderland ,
can you tell me all about it? ,that is the one
is it a good car and is it worth the money?
I think so. Check my profile, and also Tommomic's.
That's about 11k spent on it in total!
Darren.
>> Edited by _dj_ on Monday 18th October 20:33
Just seen this thread, and yes the car has certainly been lovingly maintained in the past by Darren and myself.
Check my profile to see how much I spent on it!!
www.pistonheads.com/members/showCar.asp?carId=5162
Good luck and enjoy, still miss the old beast.
Cheers,
Tommo
>> Edited by tommomic on Wednesday 3rd November 11:12
My two-penneth:
Any Cerb/Tusc will have severe running costs in the long run compared to "normal" cars. You might get away with a cheap year, but including servicing/tyres/etc. you're really talking a minimum of £1k per year, and you should budget for up to £3k.
At £20k, I'd probably buy a 4.2 Cerb (would want to spend a bit more on a Tusc). Early S6 engines are definitely less reliable than AJPs unless they've been rebuild recently. If it's got a new engine, it should be just as good as the AJP for reliability.
If I were you, I'd try a few different cars... Cerbs and Tuscans. Buy what feels right for you - they're very different cars. It's very much like saying "I want an M5 or an M3 CSL convertible" - each has its pluses and minuses.
Any Cerb/Tusc will have severe running costs in the long run compared to "normal" cars. You might get away with a cheap year, but including servicing/tyres/etc. you're really talking a minimum of £1k per year, and you should budget for up to £3k.
At £20k, I'd probably buy a 4.2 Cerb (would want to spend a bit more on a Tusc). Early S6 engines are definitely less reliable than AJPs unless they've been rebuild recently. If it's got a new engine, it should be just as good as the AJP for reliability.
If I were you, I'd try a few different cars... Cerbs and Tuscans. Buy what feels right for you - they're very different cars. It's very much like saying "I want an M5 or an M3 CSL convertible" - each has its pluses and minuses.
_DJ_ said:
It's very much like saying "I want an M5 or an M3 CSL convertible" - each has its pluses and minuses.
Funnily enough, my current thinking is m3, m5 or Masser 3200GT and I can't make my mind up.
I think i'm leaning towards the m5 though (for the v8, size and cost).
D
Running costs on a Maser are huge, from what I've heard - akin to keeping a Cerb. M5 would be my call.
BT&J_S_G said:
BT&J_S_G said:
It's very much like saying "I want an M5 or an M3 CSL convertible" - each has its pluses and minuses.
Funnily enough, my current thinking is m3, m5 or Masser 3200GT and I can't make my mind up.
I think i'm leaning towards the m5 though (for the v8, size and cost).
D
Running costs on a Maser are huge, from what I've heard - akin to keeping a Cerb. M5 would be my call.
hmmm, I've had some quotes on the 3200 and they seems to be in line with TVR costs, but the servicing interval isn't as frequent. If I could get away with 2x12,000 mile services a year at Cerbie cost I'd be OK. They also do comprehensive warranties through the dealers which would reduce the worry of the 8,000 quid rebuilds!
I like the m5, they're just a tad dull looking and heavy!
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