1000bhp cerbera
Discussion
Yes there have been a few projects:-
1) Get the original Speed 12 up n running - its up n running
2) Build a 2nd Speed 12. Part built using a 12 cyl engine from another manufacturer but using original body parts and chassis etc
3) Build out the AJP using extra capacity, massive turbo and reworked shell. Part finished but supplier and project issues meant it didnt finish. The Phoenix.
4) Replace the engine with a Mitsibushi 3000 GT engine massively tweaked. Believe this went a similiar way to the above.
5) Z Cars project to replace the engine and drive train with Nissan skyline stuff. Not sure what happened - think it got too expensive and may not be finished.
6) Massively tuned LS cars - there are a couple that run 500 and 600 ish bhp each. Up n running and running well.
7) AMG project - understand a massive AMG V8 project is on-going.
8) Turbo charge an AJP. There is one on here and is 500+? There is another under development that I assume will be similiar power.
9) Super charge an AJP - there is one (in Holland?), not sure of status.
1) Get the original Speed 12 up n running - its up n running
2) Build a 2nd Speed 12. Part built using a 12 cyl engine from another manufacturer but using original body parts and chassis etc
3) Build out the AJP using extra capacity, massive turbo and reworked shell. Part finished but supplier and project issues meant it didnt finish. The Phoenix.
4) Replace the engine with a Mitsibushi 3000 GT engine massively tweaked. Believe this went a similiar way to the above.
5) Z Cars project to replace the engine and drive train with Nissan skyline stuff. Not sure what happened - think it got too expensive and may not be finished.
6) Massively tuned LS cars - there are a couple that run 500 and 600 ish bhp each. Up n running and running well.
7) AMG project - understand a massive AMG V8 project is on-going.
8) Turbo charge an AJP. There is one on here and is 500+? There is another under development that I assume will be similiar power.
9) Super charge an AJP - there is one (in Holland?), not sure of status.
Gazzab said:
Yes there have been a few projects:-
1) Get the original Speed 12 up n running - its up n running
2) Build a 2nd Speed 12. Part built using a 12 cyl engine from another manufacturer but using original body parts and chassis etc
3) Build out the AJP using extra capacity, massive turbo and reworked shell. Part finished but supplier and project issues meant it didnt finish. The Phoenix.
4) Replace the engine with a Mitsibushi 3000 GT engine massively tweaked. Believe this went a similiar way to the above.
5) Z Cars project to replace the engine and drive train with Nissan skyline stuff. Not sure what happened - think it got too expensive and may not be finished.
6) Massively tuned LS cars - there are a couple that run 500 and 600 ish bhp each. Up n running and running well.
7) AMG project - understand a massive AMG V8 project is on-going.
8) Turbo charge an AJP. There is one on here and is 500+? There is another under development that I assume will be similiar power.
9) Super charge an AJP - there is one (in Holland?), not sure of status.
Z Cars project was finished and delivered to it's owner (in Sweden or Switzerland I think) for sprint racing.1) Get the original Speed 12 up n running - its up n running
2) Build a 2nd Speed 12. Part built using a 12 cyl engine from another manufacturer but using original body parts and chassis etc
3) Build out the AJP using extra capacity, massive turbo and reworked shell. Part finished but supplier and project issues meant it didnt finish. The Phoenix.
4) Replace the engine with a Mitsibushi 3000 GT engine massively tweaked. Believe this went a similiar way to the above.
5) Z Cars project to replace the engine and drive train with Nissan skyline stuff. Not sure what happened - think it got too expensive and may not be finished.
6) Massively tuned LS cars - there are a couple that run 500 and 600 ish bhp each. Up n running and running well.
7) AMG project - understand a massive AMG V8 project is on-going.
8) Turbo charge an AJP. There is one on here and is 500+? There is another under development that I assume will be similiar power.
9) Super charge an AJP - there is one (in Holland?), not sure of status.
Gazzab said:
Yes there have been a few projects:-
1) Get the original Speed 12 up n running - its up n running
2) Build a 2nd Speed 12. Part built using a 12 cyl engine from another manufacturer but using original body parts and chassis etc
3) Build out the AJP using extra capacity, massive turbo and reworked shell. Part finished but supplier and project issues meant it didnt finish. The Phoenix.
4) Replace the engine with a Mitsibushi 3000 GT engine massively tweaked. Believe this went a similiar way to the above.
5) Z Cars project to replace the engine and drive train with Nissan skyline stuff. Not sure what happened - think it got too expensive and may not be finished.
6) Massively tuned LS cars - there are a couple that run 500 and 600 ish bhp each. Up n running and running well.
7) AMG project - understand a massive AMG V8 project is on-going.
8) Turbo charge an AJP. There is one on here and is 500+? There is another under development that I assume will be similiar power.
9) Super charge an AJP - there is one (in Holland?), not sure of status.
Dont forget mine superchaged AJP 4.5 530bhp no engine problems after 3k just clutch issues.1) Get the original Speed 12 up n running - its up n running
2) Build a 2nd Speed 12. Part built using a 12 cyl engine from another manufacturer but using original body parts and chassis etc
3) Build out the AJP using extra capacity, massive turbo and reworked shell. Part finished but supplier and project issues meant it didnt finish. The Phoenix.
4) Replace the engine with a Mitsibushi 3000 GT engine massively tweaked. Believe this went a similiar way to the above.
5) Z Cars project to replace the engine and drive train with Nissan skyline stuff. Not sure what happened - think it got too expensive and may not be finished.
6) Massively tuned LS cars - there are a couple that run 500 and 600 ish bhp each. Up n running and running well.
7) AMG project - understand a massive AMG V8 project is on-going.
8) Turbo charge an AJP. There is one on here and is 500+? There is another under development that I assume will be similiar power.
9) Super charge an AJP - there is one (in Holland?), not sure of status.
a1rak said:
Gazzab said:
Yes there have been a few projects:-
1) Get the original Speed 12 up n running - its up n running
2) Build a 2nd Speed 12. Part built using a 12 cyl engine from another manufacturer but using original body parts and chassis etc
3) Build out the AJP using extra capacity, massive turbo and reworked shell. Part finished but supplier and project issues meant it didnt finish. The Phoenix.
4) Replace the engine with a Mitsibushi 3000 GT engine massively tweaked. Believe this went a similiar way to the above.
5) Z Cars project to replace the engine and drive train with Nissan skyline stuff. Not sure what happened - think it got too expensive and may not be finished.
6) Massively tuned LS cars - there are a couple that run 500 and 600 ish bhp each. Up n running and running well.
7) AMG project - understand a massive AMG V8 project is on-going.
8) Turbo charge an AJP. There is one on here and is 500+? There is another under development that I assume will be similiar power.
9) Super charge an AJP - there is one (in Holland?), not sure of status.
Dont forget mine superchaged AJP 4.5 530bhp no engine problems after 3k just clutch issues.1) Get the original Speed 12 up n running - its up n running
2) Build a 2nd Speed 12. Part built using a 12 cyl engine from another manufacturer but using original body parts and chassis etc
3) Build out the AJP using extra capacity, massive turbo and reworked shell. Part finished but supplier and project issues meant it didnt finish. The Phoenix.
4) Replace the engine with a Mitsibushi 3000 GT engine massively tweaked. Believe this went a similiar way to the above.
5) Z Cars project to replace the engine and drive train with Nissan skyline stuff. Not sure what happened - think it got too expensive and may not be finished.
6) Massively tuned LS cars - there are a couple that run 500 and 600 ish bhp each. Up n running and running well.
7) AMG project - understand a massive AMG V8 project is on-going.
8) Turbo charge an AJP. There is one on here and is 500+? There is another under development that I assume will be similiar power.
9) Super charge an AJP - there is one (in Holland?), not sure of status.
Gazzab said:
stainless_steve said:
Don't forget this one 
That's a speed 12 not a cerbera speed 12...half-9 said:
From a chassis perspective can a cerbera handle the extra power? Was the cerbera speed 12 chassis based on the v8 cerbera or is it completely different under the skin. Eg is the wheelbase even the same?
Thx
H
To be honest I don't think any part of the car, chassis included would come close to handling anything near 1000bhp for comfortable safe road use. Thx
H
As having some experience in running one with only 600bhp...
You would need straight away,
New Driveshafts, diff plates/mounts, diff, prop, CV's, engine mounts.
1000bhp is alot of power, once you have the drivestrain strong enough, dump the clutch and see what happens....all 4 wheels may never be able to touch the tarmac at the same time ever again!
You would need straight away,
New Driveshafts, diff plates/mounts, diff, prop, CV's, engine mounts.
1000bhp is alot of power, once you have the drivestrain strong enough, dump the clutch and see what happens....all 4 wheels may never be able to touch the tarmac at the same time ever again!
a1rak said:
Gazzab said:
stainless_steve said:
Don't forget this one
That's a speed 12 not a cerbera speed 12...
The car you're thinking of is W112 BHG the red Speed 12 Cerbera. Again a totally different car that came later with a passing resemblance to a Cerbera for marketing and maybe homologation purposes. Again totally bespoke with a folded and glued aluminium tub, it only shares the windscreen and the roof profile with the road-going Cerbera and is much much wider. As mention there is now a second car using a 'very' modified AM V12.
a1rak said:
half-9 said:
From a chassis perspective can a cerbera handle the extra power? Was the cerbera speed 12 chassis based on the v8 cerbera or is it completely different under the skin. Eg is the wheelbase even the same?
Thx
H
To be honest I don't think any part of the car, chassis included would come close to handling anything near 1000bhp for comfortable safe road use. Thx
H
Here she is at CREAM 2005.
Rolled off the delivery ramp, pushed into the assigned display area and later pushed back up the delivery ramp.
Gorgeous and Impotent at the same time.
ETA
Ooops, didn’t mean ‘Impotent’ as here she is queueing for an MOT
and some other(s) shot(s) possibly wearing different make-up….
Rolled off the delivery ramp, pushed into the assigned display area and later pushed back up the delivery ramp.
Gorgeous and Impotent at the same time.
ETA
Ooops, didn’t mean ‘Impotent’ as here she is queueing for an MOT
and some other(s) shot(s) possibly wearing different make-up….
Edited by Mr Cerbera on Tuesday 1st October 09:24
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