Larger rear brakes
Larger rear brakes
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Vee8ight

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734 posts

168 months

Saturday 9th November 2013
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I have some new CP5200 6 bolt calipers for my new 330mm front discs and thus my old 4 bolt cp5200 4 pot calipers are surplus.

I would like your comments on fitting them to the rear.......

gruffalo

8,147 posts

255 months

Saturday 9th November 2013
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I think you would have too much braking force at the back.

camel_landy

5,485 posts

212 months

Saturday 9th November 2013
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Personally, I wouldn't bother.

Under heavy braking, the weight shifts more to the front, so you don't need much on the rear before it wants to lock up. That is, unless you're towing a trailer. biggrin

M

Vee8ight

Original Poster:

734 posts

168 months

Saturday 9th November 2013
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I was thinking that, but was thinking also, larger pad area( with the 4 pots) increase braking, and 4 pots needing more fluid than 2 pots, decrease braking. Does that sort of make sense?

Jhonno

6,430 posts

170 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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It's to do with piston area not number of pots strictly..

Calipers for the front will be very overbraked for the rear, plus will probably end up with a long pedal travel.

JonnyW

867 posts

271 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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I have the 330s on the front of my race car with 6 pots, the rare are fine as road standard even against lighter cars th Cerb can brake late into corners, I think Mike has the same set up as me on brakes albeit a lighter car. One thing to watch is the width of the pads as I found the conversion has slightly less room on one side if the disc to the calipre and this can overheat the brakes which is obviously dangerous, we take a bit off the pads now before they go in!!

ridds

8,372 posts

273 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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I find mine is over braked on the rear under heavy braking. The last thing the Cerb needs is bigger rear brakes IMHO.

Braking into La Source at Spa is a particularly entertaining experience.

It's comparable to running my track 325 with fill brake pressure to the rear (not restricted through the load compensator).

I really think the Cerb could do with a bias valve to reduce the rear pressure a bit.

Unless I just had rubbish pads in the back....

purpleliability

627 posts

214 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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ridds said:
I find mine is over braked on the rear under heavy braking. The last thing the Cerb needs is bigger rear brakes IMHO.

Braking into La Source at Spa is a particularly entertaining experience.

It's comparable to running my track 325 with fill brake pressure to the rear (not restricted through the load compensator).

I really think the Cerb could do with a bias valve to reduce the rear pressure a bit.

Unless I just had rubbish pads in the back....
I guess it depends on the spring rates as well, mine used to dive a lot more on the brakes until I fitted heavier front springs on my Nitrons. Mine now has CL5+ all round and this was a real improvement over the CL5+ front and Yellow stuff rear combo I had.

Vee8ight

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734 posts

168 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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purpleliability said:
I guess it depends on the spring rates as well, mine used to dive a lot more on the brakes until I fitted heavier front springs on my Nitrons. Mine now has CL5+ all round and this was a real improvement over the CL5+ front and Yellow stuff rear combo I had.
I'm going for cl5+ from bruummie, hoe are the rear brakes with different pads?

ridds

8,372 posts

273 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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purpleliability said:
ridds said:
I find mine is over braked on the rear under heavy braking. The last thing the Cerb needs is bigger rear brakes IMHO.

Braking into La Source at Spa is a particularly entertaining experience.

It's comparable to running my track 325 with fill brake pressure to the rear (not restricted through the load compensator).

I really think the Cerb could do with a bias valve to reduce the rear pressure a bit.

Unless I just had rubbish pads in the back....
I guess it depends on the spring rates as well, mine used to dive a lot more on the brakes until I fitted heavier front springs on my Nitrons. Mine now has CL5+ all round and this was a real improvement over the CL5+ front and Yellow stuff rear combo I had.
500lb enough? laugh Will treat mine to some CLs once I get it all back together.

purpleliability

627 posts

214 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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That should do it ridds!

Mine are 450 but the break balance did feel significantly better with matching rear pads.

Vee8ight

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734 posts

168 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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What pads and brake setup are you running, Ridds?

ridds

8,372 posts

273 months

Tuesday 12th November 2013
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Can't remember if I'm on Ferodo DS2500 or Pagids up front currently.

Rears, no idea.