Cerbera 4.5 what's the point?
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0-60 in 4 secs, top speed 190+. Speed cameras everywhere, unmarked police cars hidden under evry fly over, top speeds of 70 max and cops whose only hobby is to look out for nice sports cars. Where can one have fun in England nowadays, without coughing up a fortune in fines and/or losing your license. Thinking of going to Germany or France. All I want is a little fun without ending up in the clink. Please help!!!
Is there a legal acceleration limit? Didn't think so... And there are no sideways cameras on corners and roundabouts. Because obviously they don't need them because everyone drives safely 
Plus there are places like Silverstone. It's a small town in the midlands. You may have heard of it.
Plus there are places like Silverstone. It's a small town in the midlands. You may have heard of it.
marcus1970 said:
0-60 in 4 secs, top speed 190+. Speed cameras everywhere, unmarked police cars hidden under evry fly over, top speeds of 70 max and cops whose only hobby is to look out for nice sports cars. Where can one have fun in England nowadays, without coughing up a fortune in fines and/or losing your license. Thinking of going to Germany or France. All I want is a little fun without ending up in the clink. Please help!!!
Did 1300 miles round Scotland one weekend using the full reach of the accelerator pedal, if you catch my drift, which I certainly did a few times. Came back with no points. The GPS speed trap thing (Cyclops)and the radar detector (Valentine) helped as did the rear view mirror when unmarked Edinburgh police seemed to be going to the same place as me. By and large people just pulled over to let me go, overtaking 4, 5, 6 or more at a time on the A road straights, often having to change up into fourth! Windows of other cars winding down to hear the noise was a common sight. Really pushing it up the passes at well over a lepton was magnificent, the decatted sports exhaust bouncing off the granite for what must have been miles around.
It is all a matter of sense. I scrupulously obeyed all the 30 and 40 limits, only used power and speed when it was very clearly safe to do so, no excess revs or acceleration around towns, courteous to all other road users at all times and show respect to the constabulary. Driving well within my own and the car's limits made for a relaxing and enjoyable weekend.
I was actually thinking exactly the same myself on my way home from London last night. The only time I get to drive the beast is in the dark now, where you cannot see so far into the distance, i.e. noses sticking out behind tree's.
Actually thinking of selling her and just going back to a hot hatch, as at least there was some build up in the speed in them, not like in the cerb!! When I floor it I'm breaking the law in a couple of seconds, and not just slightly like I would do in the hot hatch, but serious licence threatening stuff.
I drive quite sensibly through built up areas etc, but would just like the perfect stretch of road, with no other cars, when I can use all that power just for 10 mins a day, think I need to buy my own stretch of road!!
Actually thinking of selling her and just going back to a hot hatch, as at least there was some build up in the speed in them, not like in the cerb!! When I floor it I'm breaking the law in a couple of seconds, and not just slightly like I would do in the hot hatch, but serious licence threatening stuff.
I drive quite sensibly through built up areas etc, but would just like the perfect stretch of road, with no other cars, when I can use all that power just for 10 mins a day, think I need to buy my own stretch of road!!
Have I missed something here?
I love my Cerb, love driving it at ANY opportunity. I rarely exceed the speed limit by much - I'll admit to 85ish on most motorways, but stick to urban limits. I get to use the full acceleration more or less whenever I want.
Buy a Smart.............
TVR ownership is much,much more than just driving it. If that's what you want buy a self shifter Merc/BMW.
I love my Cerb, love driving it at ANY opportunity. I rarely exceed the speed limit by much - I'll admit to 85ish on most motorways, but stick to urban limits. I get to use the full acceleration more or less whenever I want.
Buy a Smart.............
TVR ownership is much,much more than just driving it. If that's what you want buy a self shifter Merc/BMW.
bruciebabe said:
Did 1300 miles round Scotland one weekend using the full reach of the accelerator pedal, if you catch my drift, which I certainly did a few times. Came back with no points. The GPS speed trap thing (Cyclops)and the radar detector (Valentine) helped as did the rear view mirror when unmarked Edinburgh police seemed to be going to the same place as me. By and large people just pulled over to let me go, overtaking 4, 5, 6 or more at a time on the A road straights, often having to change up into fourth! Windows of other cars winding down to hear the noise was a common sight. Really pushing it up the passes at well over a lepton was magnificent, the decatted sports exhaust bouncing off the granite for what must have been miles around.
It is all a matter of sense. I scrupulously obeyed all the 30 and 40 limits, only used power and speed when it was very clearly safe to do so, no excess revs or acceleration around towns, courteous to all other road users at all times and show respect to the constabulary. Driving well within my own and the car's limits made for a relaxing and enjoyable weekend.
That sums up exactly how I feel I drive my car
. Always obey 30/40 speed limits as I believe in them.
Then the rest is just common sense, never endangering anyone else and just enjoying the car
. And what a car! Drive into work this morning was fantastic and so much fun.
I enjoy my car everyday, even when not exceeding 4krpm you can still have so much fun.
I think the whole point in having a car like this is I can realistically see a point in my lifetime when you won't be allowed to even turn one over let alone drive one on the road
. Enjoy it whilst you can
. Duncan
DuncanM said:
That sums up exactly how I feel I drive my car
Always obey 30/40 speed limits as I believe in them.
Then the rest is just common sense, never endangering anyone else and just enjoying the car
And what a car! Drive into work this morning was fantastic and so much fun.
I enjoy my car everyday, even when not exceeding 4krpm you can still have so much fun.
I think the whole point in having a car like this is I can realistically see a point in my lifetime when you won't be allowed to even turn one over let alone drive one on the road
Enjoy it whilst you can
Duncan
I'd totally agree with that last point, I don;t think there will be many more years left of being able to drive cars like this freely.
I have the best of all worlds ! ;driving;
Safe easy motoring : BMW 728
Thrash down lanes : Mk1 Golf GTI
To arrive 10mins before I left : Cerb
You just need to choose road roads/times wisely....
I drove the Cerb to work yesterday (Docklands), and haven't had as much fun driving it in a long time ! Traffic light Grand Prix's every time I wanted to play, Blackwall tunnel, and countless walls to bounce the exhaust note off (and I didn't break about 85 all day, which is significantly less than the Mercs on the M20 on the way home last night)
I got home last night (after 15miles of my favourite A road), with the biggest smile on my face ! The Cerb made the normally very boring drive to work thoroughly enjoyable !
Cerbs needs to be used on a regular basis, but not so regular that they become the norm., that way they stay special (IMO)
Safe easy motoring : BMW 728
Thrash down lanes : Mk1 Golf GTI
To arrive 10mins before I left : Cerb
You just need to choose road roads/times wisely....
I drove the Cerb to work yesterday (Docklands), and haven't had as much fun driving it in a long time ! Traffic light Grand Prix's every time I wanted to play, Blackwall tunnel, and countless walls to bounce the exhaust note off (and I didn't break about 85 all day, which is significantly less than the Mercs on the M20 on the way home last night)
I got home last night (after 15miles of my favourite A road), with the biggest smile on my face ! The Cerb made the normally very boring drive to work thoroughly enjoyable !
Cerbs needs to be used on a regular basis, but not so regular that they become the norm., that way they stay special (IMO)
I get to use the full acceleration more or less whenever I want
How can you do this and never go faster that 85!!! Full acceleration in 1st takes you to around 60!
I absolutely love my cerb and look at it will love every time I walk back from the train station (as cannot park it at station, as all it takes is one idiot!)
Where I live I don't seem to have any of these glorious twisty bending roads, just lots of cars and traffic, and when you finally get away from this, and on to a nice road, you just don't know that a camera or radar gun is hidden round the corner Try talking your way out of "I know I was doing 100 in a 60 your grace, but it was only for a brief spell". I just wish there were no bloody speed cameras and go back to the good old days when at least they chased you to pull you over! At least these days they probably couldn't catch up! :
I am fully aware the TVR ownership is clearly not all about speed, and you have to love these cars to even consider buying one, just when you only ever get to use half or less of the performance it does frustrate you!
I don't think anyone should ever be advised to buy a Smart car!!
How can you do this and never go faster that 85!!! Full acceleration in 1st takes you to around 60!
I absolutely love my cerb and look at it will love every time I walk back from the train station (as cannot park it at station, as all it takes is one idiot!)
Where I live I don't seem to have any of these glorious twisty bending roads, just lots of cars and traffic, and when you finally get away from this, and on to a nice road, you just don't know that a camera or radar gun is hidden round the corner Try talking your way out of "I know I was doing 100 in a 60 your grace, but it was only for a brief spell". I just wish there were no bloody speed cameras and go back to the good old days when at least they chased you to pull you over! At least these days they probably couldn't catch up! :
I am fully aware the TVR ownership is clearly not all about speed, and you have to love these cars to even consider buying one, just when you only ever get to use half or less of the performance it does frustrate you!
I don't think anyone should ever be advised to buy a Smart car!!
To be honest if I didn't get the opportunity to really drive my Cerb how intended then I'm not sure how I'd feel towards owning one.
For me fortunately, the drive to work is spot on and I start work at 07:30
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Nice emptyish roads and no cameras on a 26mile commute.
For me the good far out weighs the bad but if I was dribbling around in traffic all the time then it would be a tough car to justify.
Duncan
For me fortunately, the drive to work is spot on and I start work at 07:30
. Nice emptyish roads and no cameras on a 26mile commute
. For me the good far out weighs the bad but if I was dribbling around in traffic all the time then it would be a tough car to justify.
Duncan
Why bother with a 4.5 Cerb?
That can be said about so many cars in the day of the speed camera. I can even break the speed limit in my knackered old transit van.
Its not about the speed so much more the potential. I like the Cerb and would drive it every time given my other choice of motor even just to go out to tesco.
So to answer the question of Why? Because I can.
That can be said about so many cars in the day of the speed camera. I can even break the speed limit in my knackered old transit van.
Its not about the speed so much more the potential. I like the Cerb and would drive it every time given my other choice of motor even just to go out to tesco.
So to answer the question of Why? Because I can.
Nah...this is a wind up....
Thought for a moment that he didn't have a Cerb so couldn't appreciate what they're all about....
Then I read a few of his topics and he does have one and does know what they're about........
It's cos it's the winter....and he can't be out there so much with the windows down listening to the music of the V8.
It's darker a lot sooner now too....so you can't see your reflection in the shop windows...
and getting frisky in the rain can be a little more risky then getting frisky in the dry..(although probably more exciting)...so he's feeling blue.....
and that's the only time that colour is appropriate for Cerbs......
ducksandheadsforthedoor
...//P//
all done in light hearted jest
Thought for a moment that he didn't have a Cerb so couldn't appreciate what they're all about....
Then I read a few of his topics and he does have one and does know what they're about........
It's cos it's the winter....and he can't be out there so much with the windows down listening to the music of the V8.
It's darker a lot sooner now too....so you can't see your reflection in the shop windows...
and getting frisky in the rain can be a little more risky then getting frisky in the dry..(although probably more exciting)...so he's feeling blue.....
and that's the only time that colour is appropriate for Cerbs......
ducksandheadsforthedoor
...//P// all done in light hearted jest
OK, so the car is fantastic and everybody else enjoys looking at it as much as I do driving it, and yes shops with all glass fronts always cause me to slow, but how long before you can't even drive a car like this in England. What's up with the polotics in this mollycoddled island? Why can't they shut off motorways on special days for people who want to have fun. Does big brother not know that every car manufactured today is capable of travelling at well over 100mph quite safely and half the cars produced now do well over 140 - so again, why do manufacturers not limit them to say 75mph, its as if they're enticing us to brush with the law and risk our licence, after all they all publish 0-60's and top speeds!!! Any way is it worth going to Germany or France? I have heard of lots of bike boys taking the ferry to test their mad machines!!! Regards MB
Move out to the country It's lovely out here, sheep grazing, muck spreading, Mavis knitting on her front porch, and a Ferrari/Maser independant two miles down the road intent on proving that his cars are slower than mine! 
Germany - only a few sections left derestricted, and unless you chose time of day carefully, you'll just be parking the car there...
France - On your head be it. The gendarmes have never liked anything right-hand drive, and are getting more draconian by the minute - if they can catch you that is. However, with speed tracking systems on most of the Payee, it's getting progressively more likely.
Worse still, if it's approved early next year, then EU countries will be able to slap points on your licence from afar - not funny if it happens two weeks later and you didn't even know you did it.
So get out there, book a trackday or twenty, enjoy it safely, and then come back to the real world, potter around a bit, and wait for the next one!
It's lovely out here, sheep grazing, muck spreading, Mavis knitting on her front porch, and a Ferrari/Maser independant two miles down the road intent on proving that his cars are slower than mine! Germany - only a few sections left derestricted, and unless you chose time of day carefully, you'll just be parking the car there...
France - On your head be it. The gendarmes have never liked anything right-hand drive, and are getting more draconian by the minute - if they can catch you that is. However, with speed tracking systems on most of the Payee, it's getting progressively more likely.
Worse still, if it's approved early next year, then EU countries will be able to slap points on your licence from afar - not funny if it happens two weeks later and you didn't even know you did it.
So get out there, book a trackday or twenty, enjoy it safely, and then come back to the real world, potter around a bit, and wait for the next one!
I live 5mins from brands and have to admit I find trackdays boring.
Oh look theres paddock again. BORING!!!!!!!
Trackdays are not the pinnacle of what to do in a Cerb in my opinion.
Pick a place in this lovely land and drive there through the most green and pleasant route. You'll find that not knowing whats around the next corner makes for more exciting driving and certainly brings your speed down.
Or you could book Brands again and watch paddock fly by again deciding whether your accelerator peddal was a few mm out either way. Still you could always go mad and and try the bend again in about sixty seconds.
Oh look theres paddock again. BORING!!!!!!!
Trackdays are not the pinnacle of what to do in a Cerb in my opinion.
Pick a place in this lovely land and drive there through the most green and pleasant route. You'll find that not knowing whats around the next corner makes for more exciting driving and certainly brings your speed down.
Or you could book Brands again and watch paddock fly by again deciding whether your accelerator peddal was a few mm out either way.
Still you could always go mad and and try the bend again in about sixty seconds.Julian64 said:
I live 5mins from brands and have to admit I find trackdays boring.
Oh look theres paddock again. BORING!!!!!!!
Trackdays are not the pinnacle of what to do in a Cerb in my opinion.
Living in the country does bring speed down I must admit....
Your point of not knowing what's round the next bend is very valid....especially in my neck of the woods....
But I tend to disagree with your track day comments.
Ray tracks the Cerb once or twice (if he gets the chance)a year and the last one he did was at Bedford Autodrome.
This wasn't just your usual blat round the circuit a few times.
He did that in the morning (exccellent track..nothing to hit)but spent the rest of the day going round a smaller track with water jets at each corner, learning to do donuts and then on to racing starts.
He had a great time.
The instructors were really excellent and up for a laugh and the food was great too.
Altogether a really good day where the Cerb could be pushed to whatever limit Ray chose.
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