Sprint MBE article
Sprint MBE article
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MPoxon

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5,329 posts

196 months

Thursday 1st January 2015
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Fantastic article on the new MBE ECU fitted to a Cerbera in this months (December 2014) Sprint magazine. I am not sure if the owner frequents this forum, if so I really enjoyed reading that. thumbup

Gazzab

21,554 posts

305 months

Friday 2nd January 2015
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Whats the story?
I just found this on Joolz website re multiple maps...
http://www.kitsandclassics.co.uk/engine-ecu/

MPoxon

Original Poster:

5,329 posts

196 months

Friday 2nd January 2015
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Gazzab said:
Whats the story?
I just found this on Joolz website re multiple maps...
http://www.kitsandclassics.co.uk/engine-ecu/
The story was the owner decided to have the latest MBE offering from TVR Power fitted to his Cerb, it was an interesting read.
http://www.powersperformance.co.uk/store/slug/mbe-...

I am not sure I entirely understand the multiple maps idea from Joolz, going by that logic any ECU without support for on-the-fly switchable maps can have 'multiple maps' if you are prepared stop the car, connect up a laptop to upload and overwrite the existing map.

Supateg

797 posts

165 months

Friday 2nd January 2015
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Basically the sprint article relates to a refined new ecu. Making a nice smooth job of mapping opposed to the original mbe which is more for Motorsport.
I suspect Mr lane has got a little device which allows you to upload a map from a PC for the mbe via a device thus you have multiple maps to use.
If I'm correct I know what it's called, as its standard practice with ecu's I tinker with.
Hth

Gazzab

21,554 posts

305 months

Friday 2nd January 2015
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Oh ok thats the 9A9 MBE ECU? Think it costs about £1200 plus vat so I assume that Powers price includes the unit plus mapping plus some other AJP suited parts? The pic on powers site includes lots of cables and connectors etc

gacksen

680 posts

166 months

Friday 2nd January 2015
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hm price i see is 2640 GBP incl. VAT. interessting part is how much more for dual wideband lambda knock control coil on plug iginition and fully sequential fueling ? just for convenience sake getting a new
ecu in cause its easy to map does not make any sense.

if the car is not modded in kind of a way e.g. like different cams headers etc. i don´t see any gains here as it´s not going from carbs and distributor ignition to coil on plugs and fully sequential injection.

scotty_d

6,795 posts

217 months

Saturday 3rd January 2015
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gacksen said:
hm price i see is 2640 GBP incl. VAT. interessting part is how much more for dual wideband lambda knock control coil on plug iginition and fully sequential fueling ? just for convenience sake getting a new
ecu in cause its easy to map does not make any sense.

if the car is not modded in kind of a way e.g. like different cams headers etc. i don´t see any gains here as it´s not going from carbs and distributor ignition to coil on plugs and fully sequential injection.
My thoughts as well, on standard cars I don't think cost vs gains would be efficient or of massive benefit but correct me if wrong if I am missing something.

Stunned Monkey

354 posts

232 months

Saturday 3rd January 2015
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The biggest gains might not be in HP numbers, but are in the total control the owner has over his or her engine.

I've had some experience of fitting Adaptronic systems, but not to TVRs. The company was started by an Australian electronic student and car nut wondering why aftermarket engine management systems were so expensive and in many cases not very capable!

I'd love to fit an adaptronic to my Cerb but the twin system setup is not supported by Adaptronic. Early days though, I may find a way to make it work!