all dead and now working
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dluxton

Original Poster:

10 posts

262 months

Sunday 9th January 2005
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Not going to moan about this to much, but the other day popped out to a friends house, went had a coffee and a chat and when I left to start the car, it wouldn't start, completely dead. So I gently rolled the car down the hill and tried again at the bottom. Check the fuses couldn't find any faults so called the RAC.
Whilst waiting in the freezin conditions, I thought I would give it another go and so put keys in, done the imob, and presses the buttom and she fires and since then haven't had a reoccurence. Don't know what the fault is, had to to tell the RAC not to come. little pi--ed because I don't know if it is going to happen again.
Anyone had similar experiences???

Dean

andy4200

5,125 posts

302 months

Sunday 9th January 2005
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This sounds very similar to a starting problem a few of us have had. Does your fuel pump sound like it is ok. If it does then read on.

It seems to be a bad contact, maybe the starter solenoid, but after getting the car checked it gets a clean bill of health.

If it happens again then keep your finger on the starter, might take 2 or 3 minutes, and hopefully, when you least expect it, it will start.

I personally think it's a bad earth but nobody has found the exact problem. Bad earths are really hard to find on fibreglass cars.

gazzab

21,627 posts

311 months

Monday 10th January 2005
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Put the keys in?!
What keys?

Extra 300 Driver

5,282 posts

275 months

Monday 10th January 2005
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My list of suspects;

Bad connection at Battery
Faulty master key switch
Faulty, bad connection, on the ignition ECU in the boot.

Just my thoughts,

RUSSELLM

6,002 posts

276 months

Monday 10th January 2005
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I think he means the overide key, there seems to be an opinion on here, that removing that key frequently isn't a good idea.

Mine's still doing that andy, about 50% of the time, I've had a button fitted directly to the starter & that works everytime. So mine is an electical fault somewhere.

Sometimes I can sit there with my finger on the button & messing around with electrical items, seems to make it fire up, the mains beam is a favourite.

Weird car

andy4200

5,125 posts

302 months

Monday 10th January 2005
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RUSSELLM said:

Mine's still doing that andy, about 50% of the time, I've had a button fitted directly to the starter & that works everytime. So mine is an electical fault somewhere.

Sometimes I can sit there with my finger on the button & messing around with electrical items, seems to make it fire up, the mains beam is a favourite.

Weird car


Mine does it about once every two months, usually when I'm holding up a queue at the Shell station

I know what you mean about playing with electrical stuff, opening my door helps sometimes.

Such a character

gazzab

21,627 posts

311 months

Monday 10th January 2005
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Leave the key in at all times.

Rob Dance

200 posts

268 months

Monday 10th January 2005
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Unless, like mine it is simply an ornament !
makes no difference on or off..... the cigarette lighter has also "given up " so to speak.

All a bit of a bind looking for a power source for the Road Angel.

david beer

3,982 posts

296 months

Monday 10th January 2005
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Just popping over from the RV8 side, many cars have been cured of the "hot start" by having a relay inserted just before the starter solenoid. The original wiring is not up to pulling in a hot solenoid. I know yours have a relay but what if was in the wrong place,ie too far from the solenoid through many metres of "TVR wire" its the same thing, just an idea.

dluxton

Original Poster:

10 posts

262 months

Monday 10th January 2005
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Confused about the overide key, your saying leave it in, because removing isn't a good idea?
When I bought the car the dealer said that the key is to be inserted each time you want to start??? and removed when you exit.
What's it's purpose?

crazycats

700 posts

278 months

Monday 10th January 2005
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dluxton said:
Confused about the overide key, What's it's purpose?


It's a battery isolate switch......the switch housing tends to rotate in the trim panel, and pulls the wires off the back.

Most people(me included)leave the key in all the time.

davetherave1970

2,144 posts

275 months

Monday 10th January 2005
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Never touched me key in over a year due to fear of similar problems!

guydw

1,651 posts

312 months

Tuesday 11th January 2005
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I've had a similar thing on two different cars ....

once in a demonstrator, I knocked the key, it all went dead, then I couldn't get it going. Couple of minutes later, I fiddled with the lighter and it all came back ...

Just recently, in my own car (soon to be sold alas..) I turned the engine off in a traffic jam (dumb or what ?) and it just wouldn't start - I had knocked against the key and cut out the electrics whilst I sat there. Wouldn't start for toffee, then hours later it just came back. I had thought that I'd overheated the starter motor, but it had plenty of time to cool down and still wouldn't start ...

Basically I am firmly in the don't touch the key camp !!!!!!

I think Cerbs do this to us so that we enjoy the car more when it gets going ....

andy4200

5,125 posts

302 months

Tuesday 11th January 2005
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I don't touch it either.
I had it turned off when I changed battery recently and spent an hour scratchin my head trying to figure out why I had even less electrics with a new battery than I did with the old one. Doh!!!

RUSSELLM

6,002 posts

276 months

Thursday 13th January 2005
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andy4200 said:






I know what you mean about playing with electrical stuff, opening my door helps sometimes.

)


Good call Andy, the opening & closing the door whilst holding my finger on the button seems to be my preferred starting method this week.

I noticed my boot light switch "arcing" the other day whilst submerged in water, I don't know if that's anything to do with it.

I've now found, my door buttons have started to introduce a similar delay, makes me look like a bigger gimp than normal, staring at the car whilst fondling the mirror

Help !!!!!!!!!

andy4200

5,125 posts

302 months

Thursday 13th January 2005
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RUSSELLM said:

I've now found, my door buttons have started to introduce a similar delay, makes me look like a bigger gimp than normal, staring at the car whilst fondling the mirror

Help !!!!!!!!!


If anyone asks, just tell them it's the new fingerprint recognition entry system

RUSSELLM

6,002 posts

276 months

Thursday 13th January 2005
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I'm considering painting a nipple on the front of the offending mirror

Rob Dance

200 posts

268 months

Thursday 13th January 2005
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latest trick that mine`s come up with is closing the drivers window all by itself under hard acceleration.
Spooky!!

andy4200

5,125 posts

302 months

Thursday 13th January 2005
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That was one of the symptoms mine showed before I found out the regulator was gone... Details on my other thread.