Shim box, or grinding?
Shim box, or grinding?
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tofts

Original Poster:

411 posts

179 months

Friday 1st May 2015
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Is there a forum shim box? Have been on car forums in the past where there is one?

If not, could I grind and re-harden the existing shims. I think my local machinist can do Cyanide hardening, will have to ask later. Failing that, would a heat and quench be sufficient?

I know I could just buy, but I like doing things myself If I can, just to try it mostly!

J

ukkid35

6,380 posts

196 months

Friday 1st May 2015
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I sanded mine by hand, using various grades ending up with a fine polish. Takes a long time, but no chance of getting them too hot. I don't know anyone else who does it by hand, most people grind them.

RichV6

384 posts

230 months

Friday 1st May 2015
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Hand sanded mine on a combination of a cheap diamond lap and fine carborundum paper on a surface plate. Skin on my fingers still recovering.

tofts

Original Poster:

411 posts

179 months

Friday 1st May 2015
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Interesting, and this won't effect the hardness of the shims then? Yours have been ok thus far?

RichV6

384 posts

230 months

Friday 1st May 2015
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so far they have been fine

ukkid35

6,380 posts

196 months

Saturday 2nd May 2015
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Done this twice; when I did it for the second a couple of months ago I could see from my records which I'd sanded and which had not needed adjusting (most of the exhaust), and there was no sign of change in the shims at all.

greenracing

259 posts

194 months

Saturday 2nd May 2015
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I sand by hand also and you get a much more accurate result than putting in a new " correct size" shim. This is due to the valve top not being completely smooth but also I found the new shims did not have a well defined inner edge so they actually sat a little proud of the valve top.

spitfire4v8

4,021 posts

204 months

Saturday 2nd May 2015
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For many years I've lapped shims down on a carborundum stone .. It works great if you only need 1 or 2 thou taking off. If you see an engine that's obviously not had its clearances done for some time, and you need 5,6 or 7 thou taking off, you're probably better off buying a new shim the correct size. Taking a shim down 6thou is not fun ..

ukkid35

6,380 posts

196 months

Saturday 2nd May 2015
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spitfire4v8 said:
Taking a shim down 6thou is not fun ..
First time I did this all the intakes needed at least 12 thou removed, I watched a lot of TV while sanding them.

tofts

Original Poster:

411 posts

179 months

Sunday 3rd May 2015
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Great stuff, thanks for all your input Guys (or girls?)

From this then, i presume that the case hardening effectively penetrates the whole shim because of the size?

Edited by tofts on Sunday 3rd May 13:30