Air Conditioning condensor replacement
Air Conditioning condensor replacement
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MADNESS

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224 posts

264 months

Saturday 6th June 2015
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Getting my new car fully sorted for use, I've found the air con condensor is faulty, has anyone any experance in fitting a new one of these?
Taking a look at it, it seems the rads need to be removed to gain access.

Any advice on this guys?

Cheers

ukkid35

6,380 posts

196 months

Saturday 6th June 2015
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MADNESS said:
Getting my new car fully sorted for use, I've found the air con condensor is faulty, has anyone any experance in fitting a new one of these?
Taking a look at it, it seems the rads need to be removed to gain access.

Any advice on this guys?

Cheers
Not a simple job, but only because the fittings will be seized, so you will most likely need to fit new aircon hoses, which you probably won't be able to buy off the shelf.

But yes - rad out first, then swap out condenser which is not too expensive, approx £120.

Worth remembering that the main job done by the aircon condenser is to protect the rad from damage from debris.

greenracing

259 posts

194 months

Sunday 7th June 2015
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Think the condenser is off of a range rover as I had to replace mine and the air con guy had one on the shelf ( in Melbourne Australia) $140....

You will need to disconnect and remove the rad to get to the condenser.

MADNESS

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224 posts

264 months

Sunday 7th June 2015
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Thanks for the information, I had my fingers crossed that the rad could stay connected and there was a way I hadn't seen.
With regard to removing the rad, upon refitting is there any process to refilling? Or is it a case of top up with water/coolant and away you go? ( don't want any cooling problems due to an air lock !)

ukkid35

6,380 posts

196 months

Sunday 7th June 2015
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MADNESS said:
Thanks for the information, I had my fingers crossed that the rad could stay connected and there was a way I hadn't seen.
With regard to removing the rad, upon refitting is there any process to refilling? Or is it a case of top up with water/coolant and away you go? ( don't want any cooling problems due to an air lock !)
Fill the rad with coolant with a funnel through the bleed hole. Keep the water rail bleeds open until they leak fluid. Job done.

MADNESS

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224 posts

264 months

Sunday 7th June 2015
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Managed to get the rad off and the condenser disconnected today, the rad isn't in very good condition so going to get that redone while it's out the car.
I managed to undo the top pipe line on the condenser, however the lower one was seized, I ended up cutting the alloy pipe to the old condenser, once that was out the way I used an impact gun to shock off the remaining part on the aircon pipe, this sheered it off leaving me with it stuck in the end of the pipe line! Not good news, so now I need to work out how I'm going to get it out so I can fit the new one !

CerbWill

713 posts

141 months

Monday 8th June 2015
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If I remember correctly from doing mine last summer the lower pipe on the condensor is a short run around the oil cooler to the filter/drier which is fixed to the access panel in the n/s wing. I'd get the panel open and get the pipe off the filter/drier. At least then you can wrestle with it out of the car, or bin it and get a replacement made.

Edited by CerbWill on Monday 8th June 12:06

MADNESS

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224 posts

264 months

Tuesday 9th June 2015
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Working on car tonight, have found the drier/receiver in panel as described( thanks for the tip on location).
Got a new drier/receiver to go on, found the flow arrow from the old part is opposite to the new one, it says in on the the new part, is this to go to the lower part of the condenser ?

MADNESS

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264 months

Tuesday 9th June 2015
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MADNESS

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Tuesday 9th June 2015
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Photo of the driers above, the condenser was connected to the flow right hand side( short pipe to lower half of condenser) appears new one is opposite . Any help much appreciated

billybradshaw

352 posts

171 months

Tuesday 25th August 2015
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Thread resurrection.......

Did you manage to get this little lot sorted?

I am replacing rad, condenser and drier this week and it would be great to know that you succeeded.

What's the procedure when tackling the air con system, presumably the gas needs to be discharged?

Cheers

Ian

billybradshaw

352 posts

171 months

Monday 28th September 2015
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Evening all,

Apologies for resurrecting this again but I could do with a couple of pointers please.

I have a new drier the same as the one MADNESS has posted a picture of. I've connected it up as per the legend on the sticker but what isn't clear is where to screw in the Trinary Switch. The only option as I see it is to remove one of the hex head bolts, which is what I did only to be greeted by quite a loud hiss. Not sure if that was something escaping or something entering. have I done right, is this normal?

Ta

Ian

MADNESS

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224 posts

264 months

Tuesday 29th September 2015
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I got this all sorted quite some time ago now, as I remember it you do remove one of the hex head bolts to put the electrical bit on. Wouldn't worry about the hiss, once it's all on you will have to get it all tested and refilled.

billybradshaw

352 posts

171 months

Wednesday 30th September 2015
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OK good, thanks for that, I'll crack on then.

Cheers

Ian

Thunderroad

202 posts

145 months

Wednesday 30th September 2015
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Hi Ian,

Most fridge and a/c components come sealed with a slight positive pressure of nitrogen free oxygen in them so i would imagine the hiss you heard was just that escaping, the 'NOF' as we call it, it's in there to prevent any air getting in, as air contains moisture, moisture is not what you want in an A/c system as it can freeze in the expansion valve and block it.

Try to keep the sealing caps on any parts until they are about to be installed, if the system has been opened up for any length of time just ask your a/c guy who commissions the system for you to 'pressure test' it followed by a good 'vacuum down' prior to charging it back up with gas, this is standard practice but most garages tend to rush it due to time restraints, the longer they can leave it on 'vacuum down' the better.

Hope this helps,
Simon.

Thunderroad

202 posts

145 months

Thursday 1st October 2015
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Oh and by the way, the arrow on the drier indicates the direction of liquid gas flow, this arrow should point away from the condenser and to the expansion valve/evaporator.

billybradshaw

352 posts

171 months

Thursday 1st October 2015
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Thunderroad said:
Hi Ian,

Most fridge and a/c components come sealed with a slight positive pressure of nitrogen free oxygen in them so i would imagine the hiss you heard was just that escaping, the 'NOF' as we call it, it's in there to prevent any air getting in, as air contains moisture, moisture is not what you want in an A/c system as it can freeze in the expansion valve and block it.

Try to keep the sealing caps on any parts until they are about to be installed, if the system has been opened up for any length of time just ask your a/c guy who commissions the system for you to 'pressure test' it followed by a good 'vacuum down' prior to charging it back up with gas, this is standard practice but most garages tend to rush it due to time restraints, the longer they can leave it on 'vacuum down' the better.

Hope this helps,
Simon.
Brilliant thanks for that Simon, most helpful and has put my mind at rest regarding the hissing and the connections as per your second note.

Cheers

Ian