Tuscan 2
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flashheart

Original Poster:

581 posts

271 months

Wednesday 9th February 2005
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Hello folks I have a dilemna. When buying the Cerbera 2 yrs ago it was a difficult choice between it and the Tuscan. Now the T2 is out I am starting to think that it might be time for a change. Sat in a T2 last week, v nice. I do a lot of travelling so need boot space and thought the Cerbera's was generous - the Tuscan's is half as big again. The large parcel shelf is space enough for all the stuff I chuck on the back seats (and scuff them) and seeing Cerbs parked next to the Tuscan made me realise how dated it looks.

Am I making a big mistake here? All the comments about our '420' bhp makes me wonder if the T2s 360 is real or not.

Are there any really good reasons for me to keep the Cerbera or might it be time for a swap?

Cheers

Flash

Edited because my spelling is pants.

>>> Edited by flashheart on Wednesday 9th February 22:06

Extra 300 Driver

5,282 posts

275 months

Wednesday 9th February 2005
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Drive one and see what you think!

You could always come back? Now that the SP6 engines are sorted I don't see an excuses not to have a Tus 2. As long as you can live with the lost money on a new car.

GCerbera

5,161 posts

280 months

Wednesday 9th February 2005
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Having spent two days with a Tuscan 2 last week, it is a stunning car.

At the end of the day, it depends on your personal requirments , but I think for
most, once a Cerbera owner, it will always be there in your blood.

J_S_G

6,177 posts

279 months

Thursday 10th February 2005
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The BHP is real. The mid-range torque is down on an AJP, though. Personally prefer the characteristics of the 4.0 S engine - bit more grunt than the standard 3.6 - you don't have to wring its neck as hard.

But, as GCerbera says, drive one and see what you think. You certainly get more attention in a Tusc.

Julian64

14,325 posts

283 months

Thursday 10th February 2005
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the six isn't sorted.

Not wanting to start the whole debate again, but I was corrected on this point after visiting a local dealer. They are getting in as many new tuscans as ever.

Don't take my word for this, go ask a trustworthy dealer.

GCerbera

5,161 posts

280 months

Thursday 10th February 2005
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J_S_G said:
Personally prefer the characteristics of the 4.0 S engine - bit more grunt than the standard 3.6 - you don't have to wring its neck as hard.
Opps, I ommitted to say, the one I used was 4.0 S.

J_S_G

6,177 posts

279 months

Thursday 10th February 2005
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Julian64 said:
the six isn't sorted.

Not wanting to start the whole debate again, but I was corrected on this point after visiting a local dealer. They are getting in as many new tuscans as ever.

Don't take my word for this, go ask a trustworthy dealer.

... Depends one whether you mean getting in old cars that have still yet to have rebuilds, or whether you're talking 2003/2004 onwards cars...

Extra 300 Driver

5,282 posts

275 months

Thursday 10th February 2005
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Julian64 said:
the six isn't sorted.

Not wanting to start the whole debate again, but I was corrected on this point after visiting a local dealer. They are getting in as many new tuscans as ever.

Don't take my word for this, go ask a trustworthy dealer.


[can-of-worms-open]

richb

56,208 posts

313 months

Thursday 10th February 2005
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flashheart said:
seeing Cerbs parked next to the Tuscan made me realise how dated it looks.
The Cerbera dated? Classic yes! The Cerbera is a design classic, in fact there is probabaly no other TVR that stirs such emotion as seeing a well driven Cerbera and that's from me as a Griffith man! Rich...

Plotloss

67,280 posts

299 months

Thursday 10th February 2005
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richb said:

flashheart said:
seeing Cerbs parked next to the Tuscan made me realise how dated it looks.

The Cerbera dated? Classic yes! The Cerbera is a design classic, in fact there is probabaly no other TVR that stirs such emotion as seeing a well driven Cerbera and that's from me as a Griffith man! Rich...


Its true the Cerb is as close to perfect as TVR have got yet I think.

I love the T350 also but for me the Cerb is the 'one'

chris watton

22,547 posts

289 months

Thursday 10th February 2005
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Isn't the Cerbera a stretched Chim with hard top???

greenie

1,850 posts

270 months

Thursday 10th February 2005
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chris watton said:
Isn't the Cerbera a stretched Chim with hard top???


Isn't the Tamora a MGF with a dodgy engine?

chris watton

22,547 posts

289 months

Thursday 10th February 2005
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greenie said:

chris watton said:
Isn't the Cerbera a stretched Chim with hard top???



Isn't the Tamora a MGF with a dodgy engine?



LOL, Touche

J_S_G

6,177 posts

279 months

Thursday 10th February 2005
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greenie said:

chris watton said:
Isn't the Cerbera a stretched Chim with hard top???

Isn't the Tamora a MGF with a dodgy engine?

Think you might find the K-series in the MGF has had a certain number of "issues" itself. Not least the class action being filed against Rover for the inherent flaw in the design of the head. Remind anybody of anything?

_DeeJay_

5,057 posts

283 months

Thursday 10th February 2005
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Ah yes, but wasn't that something to do with the engine originally being designed as a 1.4 and evolving/growing with wet liners et al?

They also changed a number of components over its life (and changed the head gasket material and design half way through it's life).

I suspect the major issue is that Land Rover acknowledged the problem and Rover/MG didn't.

flashheart

Original Poster:

581 posts

271 months

Thursday 10th February 2005
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Thanks everyone for your comments, the sensible thing seems to be to go and arrange a test drive. Went out and gave the Cerbera a good thrashing today so feel pretty good about it at the mo but I can't help but wonder what it must be like in a Tuscan.

Cheers folks

J_S_G

6,177 posts

279 months

Thursday 10th February 2005
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flashheart said:
Thanks everyone for your comments, the sensible thing seems to be to go and arrange a test drive. Went out and gave the Cerbera a good thrashing today so feel pretty good about it at the mo but I can't help but wonder what it must be like in a Tuscan.

From experience, driving a Tuscan is more of an experience, especially when pushing hard - definitely feels more the "sports car". And having the roof off in the summer is fantastic. However, having said that, I do regularly miss the GT qualities of the Cerb.

Performance wise, when they're both sorted, there's nothing you'd really notice. (Same might not be the case with a "standard" 3.6 Tuscan)

Julian64

14,325 posts

283 months

Friday 11th February 2005
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J_S_G said:

Julian64 said:
the six isn't sorted.

Not wanting to start the whole debate again, but I was corrected on this point after visiting a local dealer. They are getting in as many new tuscans as ever.

Don't take my word for this, go ask a trustworthy dealer.


... Depends one whether you mean getting in old cars that have still yet to have rebuilds, or whether you're talking 2003/2004 onwards cars...


Well thats the point. It was only two weeks ago I was in the dealers, with a brand new 2003 Tuscan in bits.
I made the comment that I thought all the brand new 6 engines were sorted and what was his engine out for.
The dealer shook his head and said that there seemed to be no improvement in the newer 6 engines.
They were still suffering cam damage from an overoptimistic cam and oilways blockage (from excess sealant and no proper sink in the oilway), right up to the latest cars. He had heard the opinion that the later cars were more reliable but not seen any evidence of it.
If anyone considering a purchase wants to email me I'll give them the name of the dealer to talk to.

trooperiziz

9,457 posts

281 months

Friday 11th February 2005
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J_S_G said:

But, as GCerbera says, drive one and see what you think. You certainly get more attention in a Tusc.


Only if you're used to driving a common as muck blue Cerb

J_S_G

6,177 posts

279 months

Friday 11th February 2005
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Julian64 said:
It was only two weeks ago I was in the dealers, with a brand new 2003 Tuscan in bits.

By "brand new" you mean a good 2 years old, then?