Wiper Motor
Wiper Motor
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billybradshaw

Original Poster:

352 posts

170 months

Friday 10th June 2016
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If it doesn't rain it pours, literally and this has lead to my next problem. The wipers have stopped working......They were fine this morning and now they don't want to know.

The ECU seems to be making all the right clicks when I press the buttons but the motor won't turn, it is also very hot to touch.

Are there any in situ tests I can do to check the wiring, etc. before I rip the motor out?

I've only got four days to go before Le-Mans and it seems this car is going to keep me on my toes.........

Ta

Ian


Twinkam

3,454 posts

117 months

Friday 10th June 2016
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If the motor is hot of its own accord (ie not from heat soak or that big yellow ball in the sky) then therein lies your fault. It is receiving power but unable to convert it into movement, so it converts it into heat instead. Seized motor or linkage. Might respond to a strip, clean and lube.

billybradshaw

Original Poster:

352 posts

170 months

Friday 10th June 2016
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I did think about heat soak but it does seem incredibly hot. I'll rip it out tonight.

Well, I was short of something to do tonight anyway........apart from relaxing with a beer.......

Ta

Ian

RFC1

1,109 posts

219 months

Friday 10th June 2016
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billybradshaw said:
I did think about heat soak but it does seem incredibly hot. I'll rip it out tonight.

Well, I was short of something to do tonight anyway........apart from relaxing with a beer.......

Ta

Ian
Just combine both !! Perfect friday night biggrin

billybradshaw

Original Poster:

352 posts

170 months

Friday 10th June 2016
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Right then, the gearbox and motor are out, the latter looking and smelling like the bottom of a barbecue......

Has anybody fitted the upgraded wiper motor as sold by TVR Parts?

In haste I ordered one of these before I took mine apart and looking at the images I'm not sure it will fit.

Any thoughts?

Can't do anything else now, oh yes I can, drink beer smile



robsco

7,875 posts

198 months

Friday 10th June 2016
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Le Mans is only temporary, if you can't get a motor in time Rain-X the hell out of your screen and you'll be fine. Fond memories of hanging out of my first Cerb's window with a squeegee after the wipers failed...

robsco

7,875 posts

198 months

Friday 10th June 2016
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Le Mans is only temporary, if you can't get a motor in time Rain-X the hell out of your screen and you'll be fine. Fond memories of hanging out of my first Cerb's window with a squeegee after the wipers failed...

CerbWill

710 posts

140 months

Friday 10th June 2016
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It'd be well worth your time taking the wiper system to bits and removing all the old grease and adding some new grease. I did this to mine, a '96, and it improved the performance of the standard motor immensely. Obviously put the upgraded motor in as it's already on its way but some new grease would probably make it's life easier.

Byker28i

83,227 posts

239 months

Saturday 11th June 2016
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Was it hard to get out? Need to do mine for the park switch/new grease

And yes Rain-X is your friend

billybradshaw

Original Poster:

352 posts

170 months

Sunday 12th June 2016
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Byker28i said:
Was it hard to get out? Need to do mine for the park switch/new grease

And yes Rain-X is your friend
No it's easy to get out. Took me about 20 mins I reckon

Coolant reservoir out, reservoir bracket out, undo 2 off 10mm nuts in order to remove the clamp, slacken off the 18mm nut from the output 'shaft', rotate the motor/gearbox so you can get to bolts securing the gearbox cover plate. Remove the plate and then you can un-mesh the motor drive from the main gear and remove.

I'm just waiting for the new motor to turn up before I can reassemble but I'm not expecting any bother.

HTH

Ian

billybradshaw

Original Poster:

352 posts

170 months

Tuesday 14th June 2016
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Oh bugger,

I've got the new motor but I've obviously missed a trick because when the wipers are set to intermittent they end up all over the place at the end of each stroke.

Any ideas?

Can't believe I'm still faffing about, I should be washing and polishing not faffing.

Ta

Ian

Twinkam

3,454 posts

117 months

Tuesday 14th June 2016
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Park switch.

billybradshaw

Original Poster:

352 posts

170 months

Tuesday 14th June 2016
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Twinkam said:
Park switch.
Would you care to elaborate please? I replaced the park switch at the same time as the motor.

Ta

Ian

Twinkam

3,454 posts

117 months

Tuesday 14th June 2016
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...or the supply to it.
A wiper motor has, in addition to an earth and supply(s) from the switch, a constant 12v supply that keeps it turning (regardless of the wiper switch) until that supply is interrupted by the park switch. This is positioned at just the right moment in its rotation to 'park' the wipers, it's an 'interupter' switch which cuts off that constant supply . It the motor gets power from the switch, either constant or just a one second burst, it will move it past the park switch, and continue until the switch stops feeding it, and then continue for up to one cycle more due to the constant supply will keep it turning until its cut by the parkswitch
If it's parking all over the place, it's lost that ability to keep moving and just stops when the intermittant pulse stops. Hence there must be a problem within the park circuit, namely the parking switch or that constant supply. Test for a constant 12v (ign on) at the motor plug.
HTH

Edited by Twinkam on Tuesday 14th June 22:44


Edited by Twinkam on Tuesday 14th June 22:45

billybradshaw

Original Poster:

352 posts

170 months

Tuesday 14th June 2016
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Twinkam said:
...or the supply to it.
A wiper motor has, in addition to an earth and supply(s) from the switch, a constant 12v supply that keeps it turning (regardless of the wiper switch) until that supply is interrupted by the park switch. This is positioned at just the right moment in its rotation to 'park' the wipers, it's an 'interupter' switch which cuts off that constant supply . It the motor gets power from the switch, either constant or just a one second burst, it will move it past the park switch, and continue until the switch stops feeding it, and then continue for up to one cycle more due to the constant supply will keep it turning until its cut by the parkswitch
If it's parking all over the place, it's lost that ability to keep moving and just stops when the intermittant pulse stops. Hence there must be a problem within the park circuit, namely the parking switch or that constant supply. Test for a constant 12v (ign on) at the motor plug.
HTH

Edited by Twinkam on Tuesday 14th June 22:44


Edited by Twinkam on Tuesday 14th June 22:45
You were right, it was the park switch. I took the new one out and fitted the original, hey presto, all is good again.

Thank goodness for that. I can now sleep easy knowing that only the thing left to do tomorrow is wash, polish, wax and pack the car.

Many thanks for your advice

Ian

Twinkam

3,454 posts

117 months

Wednesday 15th June 2016
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You're welcome.
Have a great LM, hope to make it next year myself.
Rik