What exactly is the difference between a

[Vinny73]

lightweight Cerb, and non lightweight pls?

[2 Smokin Barrels]

Weight ?

[Vinny73]

Really? I never ;-) But what reduces the weight? Carbon bonnet or something? And what is th weight difference.

[mark.rowe]

I think its the whole body made out of a different kind of honeycomb or something, as opposed to the standard fibreglass. I'm sure I read a previous thread about it.

[andy4200]

depends on how lightweight you or your passenger is

no offence but if you are a fat nacker then you in a lightweight would probably be the same as me in a normal one.

(Disclaimer - I have no idea of your size/weight and comments are just for illustration purposes )

[kojak]

40kg I think.

Doors are thinner, as well as the bonnet and bootlid.

There are a few other things as well. Not sure what.

Remember this fron a past thread.

[Vinny73]

Does that mean the bonnets flap around more or less? ;-)

[GCerbera]

For the 2000 model, lights, A pillars, roofline and seats were changed and
lightweight bonnet, doors and bootlid were introduced.

40kg difference

[2 Smokin Barrels]

40kg, about 6 stone. The comments above about fat passenger (or pilot, or both) are about right!

[andy4200]

I do tend to think that the LW cerb is special edition pieman model so they can boast similar power/weight ratios as the more slimline owners

Still, I won't complain, I've got an early 4.2 which as we all know is the fastest model of the lot

[ginner]

Resin on body construction is different and lighter, isn't this the vinylesta body????

[kojak]

andy4200 said:

Still, I won't complain, I've got an early 4.2 which as we all know is the fastest model of the lot

[UKBoB]

I was told the Cerb in its standard form has a higher power to weight ratio than the McLarren F1. I wonder if the 40kg makes much of a difference in real terms, or was more a case of the usual rebranding boost companies tend to give products which have been around a while

[Vinny73]

40kg's isnt all that is it, exactly what real world difference does it make?

I've been looking for a Cerb for a short while now, seen the lower end of the available cars, and am now considering a newer 4.5. Biggest concern is spending £29k on a car thats worth half that in 3 years like my Griffith was. £30k that cost, then sold for £15750 to a dealer to clear the balloon payment!! Couldnt get a private buyer in 6 mths of trying at the time. Would never get that sort of finance deal again either. Luckily, I now have the cash for a car, but still dont want to lose lose lose on it over 2-3 years.

I really like the GTS Viper blue 4.5 lightweight advertised on here, and been speaking to the dealer, but there are alot around at that price, 2 more up north a yellow and a papaya orange, although a few more miles than I really want at that price. Hmmmm choices.

[joospeed]

Vinny73 said:

WHAT EXACTLY IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A lightweight Cerb, and non lightweight pls?

[notthenineoclocknews] about 30 years and a plastic cover to you chief. [/notthenineoclocknews]

[GCerbera]

joospeed said:

[notthenineoclocknews] about 30 years and a plastic cover to you chief. [/notthenineoclocknews]

Sorry Sir, was that your hedgehog?

[BCA]

Real world difference??

From a few of the independant tests done by various PH'ers over the past two years... err it would seem the lightweight is actually the heavier car.

IIRC davidd's 96 4.2 came out at near enough quoted weight, whereas the later cars seem to be over 1200kilos???

Quite why this is, im not 100% sure.

[19560]

Vinny73 said:

Does that mean the bonnets flap around more, more or less? ;-)

Yep.

ginner said:

Resin on body construction is different and lighter, isn't this the vinylesta body????

No, the v body uses the woven matting (looks like carbon fibre) as opposed to the normal chopped strand matting.

[PHØENIX]

Ok, some weight was save here there with a more 'effective' way of making the beforementioned bits...
but weight was also gained in a number of areas...
all in all, the weight never left the mark, I would not be surprised if someone dumped one on a scale and found the lightweights to be heavier than before.
The weight distribution changed, more in the centre and less on the edges... the new seats and other cabin re-inforcement changes also added to the weight... the lightweights do noticeably have less drop at G pulling corners.... but thats also relative to better suspension setup to pre-lightweights....

[satman]

Vinney...this car looks to be a nice motor for the money...headlight/rear light conversions as well...'fast-blue-colour'... just a thought!
www.pistonheads.com/sales/detail.asp?i=38671&s=6

Im not in anyway related to the seller!