Cerbera v Jaguar XJ220 - Which Is Faster?
Cerbera v Jaguar XJ220 - Which Is Faster?
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Sir B

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30 posts

302 months

Saturday 26th March 2005
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On the way to see my parents today, ended up behind a late '80's Jaguar XJ220 on the A329(M) going up to the M4. Exited a roundabout right behind it and thought I'd have a go keeping up with it as we accelerated onto the straight. I had my foot planted to the floor, but it pulled away from me effortlessly. Well impressed! Should I have been able to give it a run for it's money? Do I need to get my power output checked, or is that car just bl**dy fast? I thought it only had a 3.5 litre V6 in it's final construction - Those twin turbo's must be something else!!

Made myself feel better on the way back.....absolutley wiped the floor with an SL500 off from the lights.

FourWheelDrift

92,239 posts

313 months

Saturday 26th March 2005
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It has a 3.5 ltr Twin Turbo 542bhp engine and 1380kg.

Cerbera 320-400bhp (on a good day) and around 1100kg (give or take a pie or two)

No chance I'm afraid

>> Edited by FourWheelDrift on Saturday 26th March 22:44

PHØENIX

719 posts

259 months

Sunday 27th March 2005
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XJ220 - now thats a FAST car...

Its a very powerful twin turbo setup, not your average turbo circuitry... literally no noticeable lag, very well designed....

You can keep up with her if you got a well sorted beast like a red-rose jobbie.... but after 120ish, she'll be waving at you... I believe she gets to 200 f'in quick...

Extra 300 Driver

5,282 posts

275 months

Sunday 27th March 2005
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But its only a Metro engine????

Sir B

Original Poster:

30 posts

302 months

Sunday 27th March 2005
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I know there's always a lot of theoretical comparison of other cars with the Cerbera (eg. 0-60 times, power, torque etc.) but are there sufficient practical exmples to support this? (ie. Head to head at the lights - who beat who?)

My starter for 10 based on below is:

Yes it was a complete thrashing! - Mercedes SL500

No way! - Jaguar XJ220

old64er

1,388 posts

267 months

Sunday 27th March 2005
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Extra 300 Driver said:
But its only a Metro engine????



how true but what an engine

ccharlie6

773 posts

269 months

Sunday 27th March 2005
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anyone see the top gear when the XJ220 well and truly beat a Zonda S in a straight line? the zonda is quicker in a straight line than the cerb aswell isnt it?

FourWheelDrift

92,239 posts

313 months

Sunday 27th March 2005
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Just a bit

WEREWOLF

581 posts

259 months

Sunday 27th March 2005
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but think how much more it cost.

BrianTheYank

7,585 posts

279 months

Sunday 27th March 2005
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Its too bad the XJ lost half its cylinders.

guydw

1,651 posts

312 months

Tuesday 29th March 2005
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I think you'll find that the xj220 also lost a lot of weight etc when it got the Ford engine, and also gained power.

They were 400K new, but were victims of the supercar crash (bad pun..) in the early 90's. There was one on PH the other day for less than 90k - I wish I could afford it, I'd have it like a shot - only problem would be servicing, which could completely beat a Cerb ... and that's saying something !

J_S_G

6,177 posts

279 months

Tuesday 29th March 2005
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guydw said:
There was one on PH the other day for less than 90k - I wish I could afford it, I'd have it like a shot

That one was LHD, though. I was sorely tempted myself... figured it wouldn't depreciate much more over the next 12 months.

As for Cerb vs. XJ220, sorry - there's no contest. The XJ would give you an absolute pasting, no question. You *might* be comparatively close to it up to 60-80 or so (but still noticeably behind), but after that it'll spank you hard for the next 150MPH. Wouldn't expect a RR Cerb to fair all that much better, either; you'd still be a good 100BHP down on it.

Prof Higgins

11,706 posts

268 months

Tuesday 29th March 2005
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This was taken at Brunters a few years ago for an Autocar feature. Unfortunately they did not drag them side by side but pretty sure the 220 cleaned up based on the figures (and if I remember there were the mutterings of the Cerb not being quite customer spec!!)

arcbeer

485 posts

292 months

Tuesday 29th March 2005
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ccharlie6 said:
anyone see the top gear when the XJ220 well and truly beat a Zonda S in a straight line? the zonda is quicker in a straight line than the cerb aswell isnt it?


Happened to watch this last night. Awesome, ol Jezza mentioned the XJ220 has a lot of torque although he didn't give any figures.

Byff

4,427 posts

290 months

Tuesday 29th March 2005
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The xj might spank the Cerb, but I can't fit two kids and a weekly shop from Asda in the Jag.

Practical family car is the Cerb.

FourWheelDrift

92,239 posts

313 months

Tuesday 29th March 2005
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Byff said:
The xj might spank the Cerb, but I can't fit two kids and a weekly shop from Asda in the Jag.

Practical family car is the Cerb.


So you're saying a Cerb is an MPV shopping trolly then?

J_S_G

6,177 posts

279 months

Tuesday 29th March 2005
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Byff said:
The xj might spank the Cerb, but I can't fit two kids and a weekly shop from Asda in the Jag.

Practical family car is the Cerb.

With the length of the back-end on the XJ, I'd expect you to be able to get an olympic sized pool fitted to it; kids seats should be childs-play in comparison.

Was musing at the weekend about having an engine set-up something like the XJ's dropped into the XKR, to up the power "a little". Then I tried taking a tight corner at 70 in the wet, and decided my money's going on even more suspension upgrades first.

satman

2,455 posts

275 months

Tuesday 29th March 2005
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Prof Higgins said:



I personally find this a damn ugly motor to look at and prefer the lines of a Cerb anyday, even if it is a shopping trolley in comparison speed wise...

DuncanM

7,450 posts

308 months

Wednesday 30th March 2005
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satman said:

Prof Higgins said:




I personally find this a damn ugly motor to look at and prefer the lines of a Cerb anyday, even if it is a shopping trolley in comparison speed wise...


Really surprised you say that!

Absolutely stunning in the Metal .

verminator

723 posts

261 months

Monday 4th April 2005
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Extra 300 Driver said:
But its only a Metro engine????



a friend of mine bought the red brochure 220 car. he
pulled out of the original deal when new due
to the change of engines. his 220 has been fitted
with one of the very few v12 that were produced
for them originaly. the v12 was obtained and fitted
by don law,THE xj220 man.